More evidence the vaxed are filling up the iCU

In Michigan, you can't go 5 min without hearing about the over populated hospitals...news, commercials, facebook...and the feds are bringing in docs and nurses to take the load off of the remaining vaxed hospital workers. All the outlets state that Spectrum Health here in West Michigan (the largest in the area) has 452 covid hospitalizations with 87% of them being unvaxed. 117 in ICU, with 92% unvaxed. and 94% of them on ventilators being unvaxed.
Are they lying?
How do they get away with lying?
is everyone there lying?

I can't believe EVERYONE is lying at Spectrum...

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Xtrozero


You know, my daughter is fully vax, as a health care worker, she is not new to her profession and she has nothing to lose when she tells me her observations, yes old people get sick, have hard problems and die, but her observation is that before this vax it was not as many as now.

Plain and simple, you take it or leave, it, but be aware. I have nothing to lose either posting this.

I don't doubt it at all, there are going to be many more issues pop up in the next months and years, December-March we should be getting vaccinated pregnant moms giving birth, let's hope we don't have any issues there. But with the blood clotting issues and AFIB, fluid around the heart, Id asks your daughter if there has been a rise in premature births or infants being stillborn but early indicators that something may be amiss.

I got two adult daughters that I know at some point will want to have children.

a reply to: putnam6

My daughter is also in child bearing years, she is having her wedding in March, I worry, but do not ask anything, most of her co workers are young and no children yet, but all of them have the same jab, Moderna and all had one same symptom, early painful menstruations the next day after the first jab.

I have not asked about premature or women having problems with babies, I think the reason she has not seen any is because her ER does not have a delivery room or baby ward, pregnant women are sent directly to another hospital for care.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: rickymouse
Yeah, the vaccine is not doing very well, and these people believe they are protected and can hug their grandma because they got the vaccine. Those people are taking way more risk, because they had been misled to believe they would not get sick if they got the jab.

I blame politicians, the media, and the agency heads that are spreading propaganda. I did see a video of the head of pfizer saying their booster would help...but in reality he just said it would help to keep down serious illnesses...his speech is related to research which evaluates risk between people who take like risks with this disease, the vaccinated are taking way more risk, so when the original vaccine started failing, those people are not being fed the truth by the NIH, FDA, and CDC propaganda and their mouthpiece MSM about how much the protection is dropping. I have seen so much twisting of figures with this yet they are not out right lying, you can twist things by making people believe they are hearing something when if you follow up on it, the way they are portraying it is not correct. Legally they are not telling a lie, deceiving people is not illegal in this country, combining figures through the six to eight months of being vaccinated can make something look better than it actually is. They are averaging percentages of effectiveness some time, not stating at the point of six months to get the effectiveness. I have seen this technique being used a lot the last two years, it has been used a lot over the last ten fifteen years but it is nuts how much they are twisting the stuff these last few years. They are making new rules of what is acceptable these days.

I am disappointed in what I am seeing in the medical industry and those who are governing it. I guess this new world we are creating is the new norm. Saw a commercial by our state lottery talking about if you have a gambling problem you can give this number a call. That commercial was after an online casino ad and another online casino had an ad after it.

Big moola in treatment and what better way to make more patients, it's a semi-sick world we live in and it may be getting even sicker.

Not in the UK. Our NHS is free.

a reply to: anonentity

Working in a major hospital doing ICU and step down patients I am not seeing this at all. My unit gets all the cardiac/vascular.

a reply to: putnam6

Nailed it. Way more lucrative to treat disease than cure it.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Randyvine2

pro tip: Write your replies out on note pad before posting them.

I do backwards.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation

I think I read the problem here is they were on the very early train of getting everyone vaccinated. The problem is that they have not followed up with boosters. So essentially the initial vax has worn off and is not as effective anymore.

It becomes less effective as other new variants show up. So we can say it is 90%+ effective for the variant it was made for and maybe 72% effective for follow-on ones with that decreasing further with other new variants, This is why there is a annual flu shot, same reasoning.

The problem is RNA viruses are unstable and there really isn't much we can do about that, but boosters should be just for people with higher level of risk that need all the protection they can get. The rest of us healthy people we will be about the same with or without the booster.

Very good info that you provided and I agree with this.

Just went in for some antibiotics. 3 hr wait was the best I could find
I didn't see any sick people just more media induced fear clogging up the system.

People were waiting in cars and the phone was ringing off the hook with people concerned about omicrap.
Intentional mass psychosis

a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

It is when YouTube will delete anything against the narrative. If you want it on YouTube then organize against YouTube and for free speech. You can’t say that other sources are not legit because they are not YouTube.

No that's not what I was saying at all. You do have a sarcasm meter don't you? NM

originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: HawkeyeNation

So the answer then is more injections, and more boosters ?

Is that so ?

Well to an extent yes. Primarily for those in the high risk categories.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Xtrozero


You know, my daughter is fully vax, as a health care worker, she is not new to her profession and she has nothing to lose when she tells me her observations, yes old people get sick, have hard problems and die, but her observation is that before this vax it was not as many as now.

Plain and simple, you take it or leave, it, but be aware. I have nothing to lose either posting this.

I don't doubt it at all, there are going to be many more issues pop up in the next months and years, December-March we should be getting vaccinated pregnant moms giving birth, let's hope we don't have any issues there. But with the blood clotting issues and AFIB, fluid around the heart, Id asks your daughter if there has been a rise in premature births or infants being stillborn but early indicators that something may be amiss.

I got two adult daughters that I know at some point will want to have children.

Something is definitely amiss.

Yesterday evening when I was leaving work one of my employees grabbed me and said I should go see “Joe” I will call him.

We went to see Joe. He rolled up his sleeve and stuck a two dollar Canadian coin on his arm where he was vaccinated. Both of the employees were freaking.

I was doubtful. I’ve seen this type of thing posted here on ATS and other places and thought that stuff like this just discredits legitimate concerns about the vaccine.

I took out a coin of my own, wiped his arm with a dry paper towel and then tried the coin.

When I put the coin close to his arm I felt the pull before it touched! His arm was freaking magnetic.

I don’t believe that this happens to everyone but it definitely happened to Joe!

I don’t expect everyone to believe me, some random dude on the internet, but I did what I did and saw what I saw.

If whatever this magnetic crap is gets near the heart, which has electric properties I would think it would not end well.

Anyways, this is an indication of more issues with this vax than we know. Hopefully no bad effects on people down the road.

I’m not going to argue with anyone who calls me a liar. I know what I saw and don’t give a crap what anybody says to me or thinks of me.

a reply to: Xtrozero

The patchiness might be due to the batch numbers, some ICU seem normal and some overwhelmed. By rights if everything was alright, the numbers should be the same as any other year. It seems on anecdotal reports that , you get a spike in deaths and admissions after the jab, then things settle down until what is probably the ADE showing up, you get a mild infection, and then the inflamation.But doctors dont like having to send in adverse reaction reports, and if the ADE shows up they would have no reason to think it was anything to do with the jab . You can only go on the raw death figures, and they are showing the Jabbed are kicking off at fifty per cent higher thn the unjabbed in Britain .

a reply to: HawkeyeNation
I agree. I don't know where the OP got his data from but in the UK covid hospital admissions have DROPPED constantly from 1042 on the 27th October to 706 on the 27th November. And in the US the admission numbers have been falling from the 13th November to the 20th November.
But then again these are the official figure from the UK government and the CDC and not from some quack doctor and an iffy web site. So believe who you want.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

I beliebe you. I have over 3 hrs of videos showing the same thing.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

I don't doubt a word, but I'm wondering are Canadian coins ferrous (attracted to magnets)? In the US all of our coins are nonferrous. That's why I would dismiss all of those YouTube videos of quarters and dimes sticking to people's arms. If that coin won't stick to a normal magnet then there is something far weirder going on than magnetism.

a reply to: Mandroid7

I was dropped in the hoax bin for reporting it a few months back, Mabey the mods would take another look. Yes, the Euro coins react to a magnet that's how Dynamo did his coin through the table trick.

a reply to: crayzeed

The governments are spinning numbers to control the narrative. They are getting better at it. If there was a big cock up they would have to control the information as it wouldn't take much to break the camel's back so to speak. Why would any doctor lie about what was going on, ? no point really no gain.

Dude. The whole body is electric.

What runs through nerves?

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Mandroid7

I was dropped in the hoax bin for reporting it a few months back, Mabey the mods would take another look. Yes, the Euro coins react to a magnet that's how Dynamo did his coin through the table trick.

Maybe, because the whole fridge magnet thing, is an obvious hoax?