Pfizer-BioNTech says its COVID-19 vaccine safe, effective in kids aged 5-11

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: HawkEyi

It is a 100% certainty that more children will get sick from the vaccines than they will from covid-19.

CNN says parents are looking forward to the FDA granting emergency approval for children age 5 to 11 to be vaccinated. I bet you won't find many CNN people who have been vaccinated themselves, let alone will introduce these brand new drugs into the arms of their young children.

What kind of a parent would allow a drug like this to be injected into their young child, who has virtually no chance of getting sick from covid-19?

Baffles the mind.

There have been nearly 1.6 million cases of COVID19 in the age group 5-11 years, as of today:

www.statista.com...

There are around 28 million kids in that age group in the US.

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: carewemust

Once again you talk completely out of your ass with no proof of anything other than your own bias.

You want to know a type of parent that will put this into their children? ME! You know why? My daughter is 10 and she is Type 1 diabetic which puts her in a very high risk category for catching something like this. I'm sure you guys that think you know it all think its no big deal, but when you actually look at science behind it.. T1D isn't the thing you want to have when catching Covid..

I don't see you in here talking about the percentage of people in hospitals (90%+) that are unvaccinated? Is there a reason out of all the topics you start here why you don't start any that show you are wrong about something?

And an even higher risk category if you decide to get her the jab. The alleged magic covid goes after the lungs allegedly, which can make clots. The jab goes after EVERY organ in your body by killing off endothelial cells and makes clots, en masse, because of that 75-85%+ capillary leakage. It will not stay in your arm, that crap is migrating everywhere.

Like the other thread says, the most dangerous 4 words to big pHARMa are "Do your own research." If you let others think for you, you deserve what you get.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

I truly hope for a pushback this is going crazy with these vaxs.

they're lying, and it isn't.

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: carewemust

Once again you talk completely out of your ass with no proof of anything other than your own bias.

You want to know a type of parent that will put this into their children? ME! You know why? My daughter is 10 and she is Type 1 diabetic which puts her in a very high risk category for catching something like this. I'm sure you guys that think you know it all think its no big deal, but when you actually look at science behind it.. T1D isn't the thing you want to have when catching Covid..

I don't see you in here talking about the percentage of people in hospitals (90%+) that are unvaccinated? Is there a reason out of all the topics you start here why you don't start any that show you are wrong about something?

Then you are welcome to get her the vaxx. Don't force it on other kids that don't need it.

This is a similar argument I had with my kids school over the 1 child in class with an allergy to everything. They tried to force the rest if the class to adjust everything our children ate to accommodate this one child.

It didn't work out how they originally wanted it to.

If your kid is at risk then do whatever you want to make them safe. But do not expect anyone else to think the way you do about the safety of a vaccine because your kid is at risk.

May sound selfish to folks in your position, but the view of everyone else vaccinating to keep your kid safe is much more selfish in my opinion.

My kids are healthy and I am not worried about this. I won't put them in a position of having something injected in their body that is a possible crqpshoot as to side effects and doesn't really even work that well.

I REPEAT, THE FDA HAS APPROVE THE PFIZER VAX for age 16 and older. LOOK IT UP! IT'S NOT THAT HARD. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine will now be marketed as Comirnaty

a reply to: Vasa Croe

a reply to: ketsuko

Isn't it odd how MSM outlets are now blaming heart inflammations/myocarditis on covid only now? i wasn't aware that covid can cause such issues let alone kidney issues.

Unless those in the hospitals arent unvaxed but vaxed.

a reply to: mzinga

Children even sick children are no in danger for covid, but they are in grave danger from the DNA altering jab that will affect them for life.

Be very careful what you will do to your own child.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I REPEAT, THE FDA HAS APPROVE THE PFIZER VAX. LOOK IT UP! IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yes....they have approved Comirnaty. The EUA was extended to get rid of the original vax because it does not fall under approval just like Moderna, AstraZeneca and J&J.

Once the EUA expires, unless the others get approval they can no longer be used.

NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS GOTTEN COMIRNATY....LOOK IT UP!

Let me know when you figure it out.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

When doing your own research actually involves science instead of googling 'Why covid vaccination is bad' and assuming everything you are reading is fact.. Wake me up.. Until then I guess take solace in your 'research'.

All of you people touting what happens with the vaccine, you do realize that most of the things you report are what happens when you get covid right? Except when you get Covid those things are worse.. You do know that right? Please tell me your 'research' actually explains to you what happens to you when you get covid versus the vaccine... Oh wait you are looking at anti-vax propaganda right? You might even be looking at Vaers data and spouting it as truth too, cuz that has all sorts of 'science' and 'research' behind it too right?

I'm going to listen to guys that know what they are talking about. I still see lots of people willing to advance their own agenda, but no one addressing the vaccination rate of hospitalized covid patients right now.

Guess your 'research' can't help you there.

originally posted by: MaplePatriot
I like how the FDA gets funding from the very companies it's supposed to be regulating,

In any other circumstances that would be a huge conflict of interest but hey, guess that's just normal.

It is fairly normal throughout society, actually. You generally have to pay the county to do an inspection on a home modification, pay the DMV for a smog inspection, pay the FAA to certify a new aircraft design, etc. Certifying a new pharmaceutical takes a lot of work by a lot of highly trained specialists. If the FDA didn’t charge for it, they would have to pay for it with taxes. If it was paid for by taxes, then the pharma companies could flood the FDA with nuisance approval requests.

How would you suggest that review and approval of new pharmaceuticals should be funded?

They are the exact same thing.

They will sell it under the name Comirnaty. And yes, you are right, but the Emergency Use Authorization is still in effect. And when it's not, Comirnaty is fully approved. AGAIN, they are the same thing.

Don't give me semantics.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

When doing your own research actually involves science instead of googling 'Why covid vaccination is bad' and assuming everything you are reading is fact.. Wake me up.. Until then I guess take solace in your 'research'.

All of you people touting what happens with the vaccine, you do realize that most of the things you report are what happens when you get covid right? Except when you get Covid those things are worse.. You do know that right? Please tell me your 'research' actually explains to you what happens to you when you get covid versus the vaccine... Oh wait you are looking at anti-vax propaganda right? You might even be looking at Vaers data and spouting it as truth too, cuz that has all sorts of 'science' and 'research' behind it too right?

I'm going to listen to guys that know what they are talking about. I still see lots of people willing to advance their own agenda, but no one addressing the vaccination rate of hospitalized covid patients right now.

Guess your 'research' can't help you there.

I hate to tell you this, but I have been in research for about 45 years for the NRC, DARPA, SDI (in the 80's), ORF/ORDCF, the military (here and abroad), CI, governments and universities. Believe what you want, I really don't care except that your lack of research capabilities (and all those that follow the crap coming from talking heads and propaganda mouthpieces) effects everyone else, that actually do the research. I would NEVER give my kid, if they were still little or at any age, any of this crap. I'd pull them out of school, teach them everything myself and head for anywhere remote enough that was also defensible. But then, I'm old school, an eye for an eye and you know that old fashioned stuff called ethics and code, oh, and critical thinking.

Good luck

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: HawkEyi

It is a 100% certainty that more children will get sick from the vaccines than they will from covid-19.

CNN says parents are looking forward to the FDA granting emergency approval for children age 5 to 11 to be vaccinated. I bet you won't find many CNN people who have been vaccinated themselves, let alone will introduce these brand new drugs into the arms of their young children.

What kind of a parent would allow a drug like this to be injected into their young child, who has virtually no chance of getting sick from covid-19?

Baffles the mind.

There have been nearly 1.6 million cases of COVID19 in the age group 5-11 years, as of today:

www.statista.com...

There are around 28 million kids in that age group in the US.

That’s a bit under 6% of that demographic that’s developed COVID19. The number of adverse reactions to vaccination in the general population that would qualify as getting sick (pericarditis, etc.) is way under 1%. How likely is CWMs statement to be true that there is a 100% probability that kids in this age group will get sicker from the vaccine than they will from the infection?

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
They are the exact same thing.

They will sell it under the name Comirnaty. And yes, you are right, but the Emergency Use Authorization is still in effect. And when it's not, Comirnaty is fully approved. AGAIN, they are the same thing.

Don't give me semantics.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Don't give you semantics?

Ok....Comirnaty is approved. Nobody has gotten comirnaty yet because none has been distributed. The current Pfizer vaccine is only EUA.

The only semantics game being played is the one from the government. The vaccine everyone is getting has NOT been approved. That is not semantics, it is truth regardless of what you want to believe.

Apparently the medical establishment is now letting Pfizer dictate the narrative. Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a Pfizer executive, is now appearing on TV news channels daily, telling us why we need the vaccine and the boosters.
Surely we can trust a Pfizer executive.


September 15th on CNBC.
"You Need Boosters"



This morning on CBS.
"Vaccines Safe For Kids"

a reply to: HawkEyi

Oh! Well if Pfizer says so then it must be true! They're such a fine, upstanding corporation with no history legal or ethical shenanigans at all!

a reply to: carewemust

It's both.

It's approved for ages 16 and up, but also has a EUA for ages 12-15, a third dose for those aged 12 and up, available to those who have received an organ transplant, or those who are immunocompromised (have HIV or other illnesses, take immunosuppressant drugs, undergoing chemotherapy, etc...).

a reply to: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
If they were using the approved one, the EUA would have been dropped and no others would be allowed until they had FDA approval as well.

I've seen this stated several times, frequently by you, yet never actually seen any evidence substantiating it. Can you change that?

a reply to: MiddleInsite

This is correct. It even states that they're the same formula in the approved application.

The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns.

just liek voting will it be counted when there are adverse reactions? I think not!

a reply to: ketsuko

a reply to: mzinga

Obviously it's your choice, not mine, but diabetes is associated with more risk for serious adverse effects and death after vaccination based on what's been reported at VAERS.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: HawkEyi

It is a 100% certainty that more children will get sick from the vaccines than they will from covid-19.

CNN says parents are looking forward to the FDA granting emergency approval for children age 5 to 11 to be vaccinated. I bet you won't find many CNN people who have been vaccinated themselves, let alone will introduce these brand new drugs into the arms of their young children.

What kind of a parent would allow a drug like this to be injected into their young child, who has virtually no chance of getting sick from covid-19?

Baffles the mind.

There have been nearly 1.6 million cases of COVID19 in the age group 5-11 years, as of today:

www.statista.com...

There are around 28 million kids in that age group in the US.

That’s a bit under 6% of that demographic that’s developed COVID19. The number of adverse reactions to vaccination in the general population that would qualify as getting sick (pericarditis, etc.) is way under 1%. How likely is CWMs statement to be true that there is a 100% probability that kids in this age group will get sicker from the vaccine than they will from the infection?

So you're trying to claim kids won't catch it if they get the vaccine? Joe? Is that you?

This is the same argument used originally....vaccine will keep you from getting it....nope.

How many of those 5-11 were hospitalized or died? That would be a better comparative number to the adverse reactions of the vaccine with kids.

I know dozens personally that tested positive and had absolutely no issues. Mine included.

I know many more second hand that tested positive and had no issues.