An answer to the black triangles?

a reply to: wirehead

the thing i saw like i said was rather small and certainly not a classic BBT.


continuity of government has some VERY VERY spooky elements, i would not surprise me to find out that the POTUS has a secret high speed aircraft they could put him on in case of a real nuclear attack or chemical attack.


I ran into some secret service secure transport people and i got a sneak peak at some of their gear and going off what they showed me i can only imagine what they have in the basement for a real situation.

I know nuclear production facilities have been over flown very regularly by some of these craft.

and i submit that the craft that came down in the RFI was one of these craft and seeing as we work SUPER SUPER close with the Britts on some of our inky black projects it wouldn't shock me to find out that the smaller ones are flying on both sides of the pond.

And that would also give credit to the SAS and the claimed story of them messing with the Americans that night.

these things exist, small, big and HUGE.


i have only seen the smaller ones so i cant really speak to the others, and the one i saw was a solid tri. and not a chevron.

and now we have the tic tac's.

a reply to: wirehead

Yes, same selection and same training. They say its not but it is. If you analyze the spots where BBT have been seen, youll conclude that special forces are indeed involved.

They are supposedly based in central Australia as well, at Pine Gap.

originally posted by: penroc3


when it left it went straight up(with no acceleration curve) rotated and zipped off flat edge forward, as apposed to the pointy end like normal aircraft.

it looked like a small flattened out pyramid and all the edges were very very sharp looking.

When it accelerated, was there any sense of optical distortions correlated with motion/acceleration? For example geometric distortions, unusual refraction of background, blue-shift or red-shift, or clouds of apparent aurora-like ionization?

originally posted by: wirehead
a reply to: penroc3

For most of these missions, the last thing you would want to do is fly low & slow over suburban America (note I say "most"). When you think about the extraordinary security measures around normal black projects (only flying in highly controlled airspace at specific times, all base personnel sent inside with windows shuttered, tight control of information, NDAs, classifications, etc.) and compare versus what the BBTs are doing which is almost the exact opposite, you have to conclude that they must be forced into this flight profile either by the nature of their mission, or by extraordinary circumstances outside of control (weather, etc.)

lighter than air craft could be highly susceptible to weather and winds

a reply to: Paradisima

There is decades of documented proof highlighting a known gap in provision of Spec ops VTOL from unprepared surfaces from the best funded special forces activity in the history of warfare (AKA US SOCOM).

In what bizarre reality do the UK SAS (poormen of the spec ops world) ride around in BBT's?

a reply to: Jukiodone

when do Brits fly around in B2's or F117's?

when do the SAS and the US special forces work together?



ALL. THE. TIME.


The UK is like our little Brother, they get in on the action and get to play with our cool toys.


they helped us with the atomic bomb, stealth and now probably these craft that zip around.

a reply to: Jukiodone

and we both know there is a VTOL that uses ducted fans and is pretty quite and big and is a troop transport.

a reply to: penroc3

Is it conceivable that they are Holograms? and the cloud spraying is the projection medium. When active the medium has more energy and shows a radar return. The varying size of these things suggests focus problems. If at one moment it's close and the next sixty miles away. The only way that could happen without time travel is to be able to switch it on and off. The purpose being radar decoys to confuse enemy radar.

a reply to: penroc3
www.defensenews.com... For sure this time no doubt , Tempest will be in very good hands

a reply to: anonentity

I mean anything is possible these days.


do I think they use something similar as a decoy, yes.

most black tri's have been seen with a small red or blue ball that detaches and has the ability to fly on its own and than appear to be reabsorbed by the black tri.

I think the ECM suite would make it possible to fool even the best observers, its hard to not believe your eyes and seeing as civilians don't have access to military radar it is possible they are all the sightings are some sort of construct or projection.

they could be projected from the ground or even the air or sea(from a sub).

Imagine if you were fighting America and all of a sudden a football stadium sized craft just appeared, not only would it absorb all the incoming fire but if it was a hologram there would be zero loss not to mention the whole psychological effect on the enemy seeing such a craft.



with all that being said what i saw looked sold as could be and didn't shimmer or APPEAR to be a projection.


I think the US doesnt mind the rumors that we have these craft and I think that's why the tic tac and the go fast videos were released.

we are in a new type of arms race and have been before 85,


you also have to take into account the sightings of these types of craft before flight was possible let alone something advanced as these craft.

there is definitely a mix of things going on, and I don't think we will ever know what one is what.

the only way we will ever hear about these craft is when someone in the white world cracks the the same method of flight and makes it public.

I think they are alien/human/projections of the collective unconsciousness/really really advanced holograms.

a reply to: Jukiodone


Have you served? If yes, in what league? If no, i can tell you that your ''documented proof'' is just an illusion.
I have a couple of family members who where spec ops operators. With deduction and logic you will see through the smokescreen.

originally posted by: darksidius
a reply to: penroc3
www.defensenews.com... For sure this time no doubt , Tempest will be in very good hands

always looked like the widow to me

a reply to: Jukiodone

Ill help you my friend. Research the next projects : operation Backfire, operation Fedden, Operation Surgeon.
Then research Ahnenerbe and how Hans Kammler did a nice Houdini trick at the end of WW2. Man ''vanished'' .
Now do you understand why the British special forces where indeed involved in capturing advanced technology since WW2?

a reply to: penroc3

I still think the tic tacs are just tethered balloons attached to a submarine. Have the tic tacs ever been spotted over land?

a reply to: TheGoondockSaint
Balloons abble to escape F-18 hmmm.

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint
a reply to: penroc3

I still think the tic tacs are just tethered balloons attached to a submarine. Have the tic tacs ever been spotted over land?

penroc3 was caught off-guard when he saw his triangle craft, so it's somewhat understandable why he didn't think of getting video.

But Fravor is a different story, because his mission was changed from a training mission, to "Identify the UFO" so he has the entire flight to the UFO location to prepare to turn on his camera to aid in identification. So I'm a lot more disappointed in Fravor for not turning on his camera.


The disturbance in the water Fravor saw could have been a submarine, we don't really know. I think that tic-tac sighting was unique. I haven't heard of another incident quite like it.

Based on his verbal description, the behavior of what he saw was not something a balloon could do.

But the "tic-tac" video made by Chad Underwood doesn't show anything a balloon couldn't do, so that "tic-tac" could easily be a balloon, through it's hard to say for sure what it is. I don't see any way to rule out a balloon in the video through.

a reply to: TheGoondockSaint

ohhh your sooooooooooo close

a reply to: Arbitrageur

apparently there is allot more to that video the commander took that day and is a lot clearer to the point where you can see the 2 projections.

Corbel is apparently splitting from TTSA and is release a tell all(shocker).



i almost think the BT's have a 'stupid' ray for lack of a better word, SO many stories of very sensible people just going slack jawed from people like me to veteran police. Yes it is a confronting moment but at some point you would think we would have some pictures blurry or not.


and im not exactly sure what made me get out of the car and start walking towards it, i wouldn't get to close to a chopper or a jet for obvious reasons.

little Micky (Arbitraguer)
the same, 'scratched old vinyl record'
Rinse & Repeat,every subject
akin to the Universes self annointed Oracle
(in hims own likkle interlocutor)

from his armchair
wee winky Micky, the font of all knowledge.

Commander David Fravor
Commander Chad Underwood
Lt Commander Alex Dietrich
Senior Chief Operations Radar Specialist Kevin Day
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Add, Ryan Weigelt & PJ Hughes & Jason Turner & Gary Voorhis
This was, our Navy's nuclear strike carrier group 11,with;
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not ANY doubt, at all, the cross referenced radar cross sections 100% red
Zero Squawk, Zero IFF.
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5,000 time served fantastic guys n gals.
Micky, knows way way more, WAY More, it's so obvious isn't it, from West's comfy armchair, a gazillion miles away, from a seat EVER in an F18 super hornet.
all the above (all of us) clueless & delusional
But likkle winky Micky, assures us, a PELICAN, a sub towing a kite ( 4 bit O fun) Venus misinterpreted!
that same, one size! Fitz Hall, debunk
What a lotto Clutter
10 days plus, likkle Micky, with the following repeatedly broadcast on the fleet
Big Real World Situation going down/on
how the strawman, West, got the gaul, to continuously dig out everyone, takes a special type of Toby.
And, in summary, for a moment, do you really think?
Absolute chunks and chunks of footage, data, etcetera, that is not remotely in the public domain,dont exist!
You would have to be a lemon, to think not
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West / Arbitraguer, large dose, of the Green eyed monster
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