Biden mandates all employers with 100+ employees to require Covid vaccinations

a reply to: visitedbythem

I suppose you could be right that this is a slippery slope.

I just don't see people renouncing God or Jesus Chris. I mean, that's deep, I don't see people doing that. I'm not even religious, I guess we'll circle back next month for the next level?

well, there are around 299 vaccines in clinical trial or pre-clinical.
The mRNA virus being injected right now are out of date and contains the wrong spike proteins for MU and Delta.


So perhaps if the FDA/CDC could get around to verifying the other types of vaccines instead of the fake and out-of-date variety. There might be more of an uptick.

PS
AS there are expected to be over 60 million Americans carrying Worms that kill babies. All pro-mandated vaccines better be taking Ivermectin or you're just a hypocritic baby killer.

I would just like to apologize now to our Canadian membership for making fun of them in my Police State thread.. how the turns tables

Biden to Canada, Hold my beer!

originally posted by: trollz

President Joe Biden will instruct all employers with more than 100 workers to force their staff to get vaccinated or submit to weekly Covid-19 tests, the Associated Press reported. Companies refusing will face stiff fines.

The White House cannot normally compel private companies to force drugs or testing on their employees, but the Biden administration’s order will be given through the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which will issue a rule
www.rt.com...

Well, here we go. It begins. Biden is mandating that all employers with more than 100 employees require those employees to get vaccinated or get a weekly test.
If you say you've been vaccinated, are employers legally able to verify? What counts as a weekly test?

It's just flat out DISCRIMINATION. BOTH the vaccinated and the unvaccinated can catch and spread Covid.

But all these laws they want to draft only require testing of the unvaccinated. Since both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated can catch and spread Covid, then either you require weekly tests of BOTH the vaccinated and the unvaccinated OR you can't require tests at all.

Fact is the vaccinated spread Covid more than the unvaccinated BECAUSE the vaccinated don't wear masks. The vaccinated carry the same viral load in their nostrils as the unvaxed. And the vaxed who do not wear masks spread the Covid everywhere they go.

But Biden doesn't want to do weekly tests of the vaccinated spreading the Covid. Only the unvaxxed would be forced into weekly testing.

Not only is that flat out DISCRIMINATION, but it doesn't stop the vaxed from spreading Covid to other vaxed and unvaxxed.

It's not a solution. It's government over-reach. Biden lines his pockets with profits from Pfizer and Moderna while he simultaneously DiSCRIMINATES.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION... the more they try to shove these vaccines down everyone's throats, the less I want them.

But if you threaten or coerce me with a needle, I take that as a threat on my life. And anyone and everyone threatening, forcing and coercing to inject substances into people...well, that's when you take a needle full of air and you say..."If you threaten me with a needle again...then this needle full of air is going straight into your jugular."

You don't threaten to inject people with substances against their will, and if you do, then an EYE FOR AN EYE is the Biblical term.

a reply to: ketsuko

This is a clear choice. Either you put your faith in the rules of this world and accept the mark or you remain in your faith with his words bind your hands and be as frontlets to your eyes.

You are either bound to christ or bound to this world of sin. There is no in between. If you think you can take this jab and somehow refuse some obvious later mark you are only fooling yourself.

Whether the jab is "the" mark or simply anprecurser does not matter because by taking the jab you have shown where you have placed your faith.

Just try and imagine jesus refusing to bath, eat with, and lay hands on lepers until they and he were vaxxed. Fear is not from the lord. Not fear from affliction or illness not fear of men and definitely not fear of some worldly government of men.

I and those who have been sealed in christ will refuse this jab to our last breath, if you can't say the same, then you are allready marked by your master who is the prince and ruling principality of the air.

If you put your faith in the media, big pharma, and big brother, you need to stop! Just accept Jesus as your lord and savior and let his holy spirit guide you through reading and meditating on the word.

Only then will you be able to see clearly the trap satan has laid before you.

Time is running out for this world, so I wouldn't wait too long.

a reply to: infolurker

I ask that you pray and meditate in the word of God, and if you still feel that taking the vax is not a pledge of faith in men as opposed to faith in christ, there is nothing else I can say or do for you.

Did jesus fear sickness even from the lepers?
Mark 1:40-45

Can you have two masters?
Mathew 6:24

Where does one ware the seal of God, and how is the mark of the beast I direct inverse of that seal.
deuteronomy 6:8
Revelation 13:16-17

Find me an example of jesus fearing sickness or the sick and I will concede my points.

I have given you my witnesses from both the old and new testament and shared my faithful conviction. I pray the Holy spirit will convict you, so you may be edified in the word.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: ChaoticOrder



Almost no one wants to go back to the office at all

I retired before covid. (im so diasappointed that covid has stolen nearly 2 years of retirement travel and activities from me, but thankful Im and my loved ones are healthy!)

I was out for a dog walk one morning and encountered a woman I used to work with. She is still a federal employee at the nearby base. She told me she is working remotely, and hasnt even been into the office or even on base in a year! I remember when working one day a week from home was an issue with managers and productivity, but they did so to meet carpooling goals. I cant imagine what its like to lead a team of people you havent even seen for a year.

I recently had to pay 400 in fees to get a passport in two months instead of 6 months, for travel in oct. Thats the bite for the fast lane. I once got a passport in 2 weeks. Only one indication that the govt isnt functional. Im sure there are many more such examples of loss of productivity.

If we can afford for employees to not even show up at the office in a year, maybe we can lay some off, shutter some expensive office bldgs, save some money. Perhaps half the federal workforce isnt even needed?

Going to turn into a hot war, and it should. Tho use saying you don’t believe violence is right are going to be wrong. If you are on a jury you better vote not guilty for whatever the offense is if they are fighting covid as well.

a reply to: HawkEyi

They're still trying to unload the batches they bought in January. What the FDA "approved" for extended EUA is branded as ComiRNAty and has not even entered production, much less is it available for anyone to be injected with.

Nuremberg Code. 10th Amendment. Blah, blah, blah…

The Facts:

The British Medical Journal: Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine?

a reply to: BrujaRebooted


I also learned that I never want to return to the office.

Haven't been there a single time in almost 18 months.

In my case however, employer realized that I get a lot more accomplished from home, so when they learned of my 'early retirement plan' if ever called back, they offered permanent work from home & zero travel instead.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

There are many who are even more productive at home, but both the job requirements and the personality have to be well aligned. Not all are as successful. Even fewer in federal govt. Contractors seem to be more independent in personality and not need as much supervision.

I had a social security issue during this pandemic and was very disappointed by the service I received. Worse even than pre-covid. Its unnerving to speak to someone on the phone to resolve an issue, and the dog is barking, or the kid is saying “mommy….mommy” while they are trying to get your problem addressed. Ive experienced both.

double post, whoops

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I was out for a dog walk one morning and encountered a woman I used to work with. She is still a federal employee at the nearby base. She told me she is working remotely, and hasnt even been into the office or even on base in a year! I remember when working one day a week from home was an issue with managers and productivity, but they did so to meet carpooling goals. I cant imagine what its like to lead a team of people you havent even seen for a year. I recently had to pay 400 in fees to get a passport in two months instead of 6 months, for travel in oct. Thats the bite for the fast lane. I once got a passport in 2 weeks. Only one indication that the govt isnt functional. Im sure there are many more such examples of loss of productivity. If we can afford for employees to not even show up at the office in a year, maybe we can lay some off, shutter some expensive office bldgs, save some money. Perhaps half the federal workforce isnt even needed?

Although I agree the government probably has some fat they could cut, not all jobs require a you going into an office.
Being in the IT field, or in an international office, there is almost zero need to be in an office. Your co-workers aren’t there, they are all over the world. Everything you can do in the office you can do at home. I don’t think people realize that. Many people I know are not even in the same state as your boss. How do you lead a team that aren’t there, just like you would if they are there, unless you are a micromanager that has to breathe down the neck over everyone, but in that case I doubt your team is that great to begin with.

If a Federal employee can do the same job at home as in a building I have no problem with that. Your passport example is a poor one. The long time for passports is because of shortage of workers. If they force workers back, some will quit, this will only extend the passport time even further.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I was out for a dog walk one morning and encountered a woman I used to work with. She is still a federal employee at the nearby base. She told me she is working remotely, and hasnt even been into the office or even on base in a year! I remember when working one day a week from home was an issue with managers and productivity, but they did so to meet carpooling goals. I cant imagine what its like to lead a team of people you havent even seen for a year. I recently had to pay 400 in fees to get a passport in two months instead of 6 months, for travel in oct. Thats the bite for the fast lane. I once got a passport in 2 weeks. Only one indication that the govt isnt functional. Im sure there are many more such examples of loss of productivity. If we can afford for employees to not even show up at the office in a year, maybe we can lay some off, shutter some expensive office bldgs, save some money. Perhaps half the federal workforce isnt even needed?

Although I agree the government probably has some fat they could cut, not all jobs require a you going into an office.
Being in the IT field, or in an international office, there is almost zero need to be in an office. Your co-workers aren’t there, they are all over the world. Everything you can do in the office you can do at home. I don’t think people realize that. Many people I know are not even in the same state as your boss. How do you lead a team that aren’t there, just like you would if they are there, unless you are a micromanager that has to breathe down the neck over everyone, but in that case I doubt your team is that great to begin with.

If a Federal employee can do the same job at home as in a building I have no problem with that. Your passport example is a poor one. The long time for passports is because of shortage of workers. If they force workers back, some will quit, this will only extend the passport time even further.

I got a passport in less than a month only 3 years ago. It needed an update due to name change. What caused the worker shortage since then?

And yes, the job I retired from, and worked from home 2 days per pay period, was IT. Some jobs, like help desk, or heads down coding, are fine from home. But one size doesnt fit all.

If they wanted to destroy the economy, I think they just did it. How can you declare war against citizens that don't want to take an experimental drug and push a lie that people that are healthy and don't take the shot are spreading it to vaccinated. Wow! It's just a pushed narrative that doesn't follow the science.

Understanding the vaccinated still can carry, contract, and spread covid-19 why are they not subject to testing? If the goal is safety and to save human lives the government should be paying for testing for all citizens not garnering wages of specific individuals. It’s coercion.

The goal is not safety.

The goal is not safety.

The goal is not safety.

a reply to: trollz

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

There are many who are even more productive at home, but both the job requirements and the personality have to be well aligned. Not all are as successful. Even fewer in federal govt. Contractors seem to be more independent in personality and not need as much supervision.

I had a social security issue during this pandemic and was very disappointed by the service I received. Worse even than pre-covid. Its unnerving to speak to someone on the phone to resolve an issue, and the dog is barking, or the kid is saying “mommy….mommy” while they are trying to get your problem addressed. Ive experienced both.

Agreed.

I also would have been a poor choice for work from home when younger, and it would definitely have stunted my professional development.

Perfect fit for me right now though.

a reply to: trollz

The mark of the beast.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Good points about career dev and youth. Perhaps next gen is better at independent work in front of a computer screen. Seems thats how they are spending their lives.

I often wonder now when Im placed on hold, if they havent gone to put clothes in the dryer, or some other distraction while I wait for them to ‘research’.

COVID has changed everything. Some positives have to come of this somewhere? But it just keeps getting worse. This situation with mandated vax has me spooked.

There are a very large number of us that are vaxed, but do not like this turn of events, from a quick read of my peeps. Im not thinking Im having a booster any time soon. This move will net lose support for this dumpster fire, not gain.

This is wrong. Period.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Good points about career dev and youth. Perhaps next gen is better at independent work in front of a computer screen. Seems thats how they are spending their lives.

I often wonder now when Im placed on hold, if they havent gone to put clothes in the dryer, or some other distraction while I wait for them to ‘research’.

COVID has changed everything. Some positives have to come of this somewhere? But it just keeps getting worse. This situation with mandated vax has me spooked.

There are a very large number of us that are vaxed, but do not like this turn of events, from a quick read of my peeps. Im not thinking Im having a booster any time soon. This move will net lose support for this dumpster fire, not gain.

This is wrong. Period.

Even my ULTRA left parents are disgusted by the current and threatened mandates.

Father worked in many countries with tyrannical socialist leadership, and knows exactly what this step means.

Even considering voting R in 22 for the first time in their lives.

Won't quite commit to it, but just making that statement out of the blue was shocking.