The Real (Theoretical) Truth About The "Covid" vaccine

originally posted by: kykweer
There have been a few theories thrown around over the last year about the origins of covid, and if man made, the purpose of the virus. It could be a bio weapon, medical research with poor safety practices or just nature.

If the virus has a nefarious means by the powers that means, one of the theories is a mass decrease of the population.

I think if the power that be wanted to reduce the population and have the sheeple follow all its plans, using the vaccine would be a very poor strategy, because they would be actively killing the sheeple, and leaving all the rebels/resistance alive to see what happened and they would then unite to stand up against TPTB.

I think they way they would do it would be to give the vaccine to save the sheeple and later release an even more deadly virus to eliminate the rebels and free thinkers, while the ones that took the "covid vaccine" will be protected.

Please get the vaccine.

So in a way... I can now consider myself a covert ops 😃

August 3, 2021 - Update

Mayor DeBlasio - Vaccine Passports now mandatory in New York City.

www.foxbusiness.com...

Watch city revenues PLUMMET further.

a reply to: kykweer

So, does this mean that you are a sheeple and embrace the concept?

a reply to: kykweer

Fear is the main driving point here. If not for fear, vaccinated people wouldn't be screaming at the unvaccinated people and getting aggressive with them. A vaccination is supposed to keep you from getting whatever it is you're being vaccinated against, but this one isn't. It works as well as the flu shot, which happens to be another one I never get. I don't get the flu, I don't get the flu shot.

As far as fearing the vaccine, I guess I could see it as a vaccine fear from your angle, but the people I've spoken to aren't afraid of it, they just don't trust it. I don't buy into the whole "population control" thing but I've only bothered to watch one video on this whole thing. The video was about the vaccination targeting only one strain of the coronavirus and nothing else. In the video, it was compared to the likes of Bin Laden being killed, thus forming the rise of a more dangerous caliphate, ISIS. How it was comparable was that the vaccine took out the strain of virus it was created for, but left a more dangerous mutation to take over after the other strain was killed. It made sense then, and makes even more sense now considering there's another "more dangerous" strain spreading. Now what happens when the delta is targeted? The next in line, potentially more dangerous, will start its surge.

Other countries have successfully fought off the coronavirus - pre-vaccine - with Hydroxychloroquine but since Trump was the one who suggested it, it was immediately thrown out the window by the media and Fauci. It was already an available solution that wasn't given a chance. Why?

I'd love to get back to normal. We were on our way before the fear got ramped back up. My consciousness tells me to take care of my family, that's my job. My job isn't to take care of everyone else and worry about them, that's their job. I guess I'm too independent and since I don't expect everyone else to take care of me, I don't expect them to expect me to take care of them. To be clear, I'll help anyone the looks like they're struggling with something like a bag of dog food for example, I'll help an old lady cross the street, I'll give someone the shirt off my back or stop to pull them from a wreck, but I'm not going to wear a mask and take a vaccine (neither of which are a guarantee) just because fear and panic have been more widespread than any virus and have played such a heavy role. If you're afraid then it's your job to take the precautions that you feel are necessary.

I, personally, do not need anybody to protect me and I'm sure as hell not gonna beg. When the day comes that I feel it to be necessary to wear a mask of get a vaccine to protect my family and myself from others, I will do what I have to do. If I'm viewed as selfish for watching out for my family instead of everyone else, I really don't care. I lost my "give a sh#t" when I couldn't make my own choice - over a frickin' virus - without being bashed for it. Perhaps if people were as understanding about my choices as I am theirs, regarding a virus, then none of this would be an issue. This war of political aggression really needs to end.

originally posted by: kykweer
a reply to: LSU2018
That is an interesting response, so you believe we should leave it up to the immune system to fight the virus. I can only assume that you don't really believe in medicine.

Do you think the fatality rate would have stayed the same if people were not hospitalized as they were or would it have increased significantly. In this case 3-4 out of 100 dying would be significant imo.

I had a thought here, so without delay, I'm going to get right to it. What is your stance on OTC medications? Robotussin, Coricidin, Tylenol Cold & Fl, TheraFlu, store branded stuff, etc?

This is going somewhere, I promise. Just answer it.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: chr0naut

They're "known" to be similar to the short term effects???

Do you even stop for one second to think about that? How long has this vaccine been out, about 7 months? Do you understand that that means there's not a single person on this Earth who can tell what the side effects will be 8 months after the vaccine? You're literally not giving two sh##s of a critical thought.

Can you explain the mechanism by which any low dose, infrequently taken medicine does something different years later?

Perhaps provide an example of such happening, historically?

originally posted by: sraven
a reply to: kykweer

So, does this mean that you are a sheeple and embrace the concept?

You know what I find funny. In this thread we have anti vaxxers complaining about the vaccinated because they are on their high horse telling people to get vaccinated almost aggressively... fair enough. The response by some is to call them the sheeple and the stupid people...

What I see is both sides taking it that far is pretty awful. Just a bunch of whining Karen's.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: kykweer
a reply to: LSU2018
That is an interesting response, so you believe we should leave it up to the immune system to fight the virus. I can only assume that you don't really believe in medicine.

Do you think the fatality rate would have stayed the same if people were not hospitalized as they were or would it have increased significantly. In this case 3-4 out of 100 dying would be significant imo.

I had a thought here, so without delay, I'm going to get right to it. What is your stance on OTC medications? Robotussin, Coricidin, Tylenol Cold & Fl, TheraFlu, store branded stuff, etc?

This is going somewhere, I promise. Just answer it.

I have to be serious I don't even know what those medicines are. I suppose its how badly you want/need to take it? All those medicines will come with some side effects. I know you might say I'm dumb and need to do my research, but I honestly have never had to take these meds, usually I have my go to's for congestion, cough syrup and saline spray, but this came with years of trial and error.

a reply to: flice
LOL you have no idea how long it took me to get the right word in my head.

a reply to: LSU2018
Which countries fought off covid pre vaccine?

One I can think of is new Zealand, but their measures would be seen as draconian, but to me they have more freedom than anyone country in the world as far as I know.

Most of us are just fed up, and freedom is such a relative thing I am all for your right not to wear a mask or to ever get vaccinated, but wouldn't that infringe on MY freedom if you choose to do so shopping at a store I'm shopping at?

I have seen aggression from both sides, anti vaxer snoflakes shouldn't play the victim then call people getting the vaccine names.

It's like how the "left" and the "right" keep having a go at each other. They are two sides of the same coin.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
If the elites wanted population control they wouldn't use a modified cold virus with a 99% survival rate. Like a million better and easier ways to go about it.

but that's my point, if the end game is population control, surely "they" would want to get the herding "sheeple" over the rebels and resisters that choose not to take the vaccine. Even if that is still unlikely its more likely than thinking the vaccine is going to kill us all in 2 years.

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: kykweer
a reply to: LSU2018
That is an interesting response, so you believe we should leave it up to the immune system to fight the virus. I can only assume that you don't really believe in medicine.

Do you think the fatality rate would have stayed the same if people were not hospitalized as they were or would it have increased significantly. In this case 3-4 out of 100 dying would be significant imo.

I had a thought here, so without delay, I'm going to get right to it. What is your stance on OTC medications? Robotussin, Coricidin, Tylenol Cold & Fl, TheraFlu, store branded stuff, etc?

This is going somewhere, I promise. Just answer it.

I have to be serious I don't even know what those medicines are. I suppose its how badly you want/need to take it? All those medicines will come with some side effects. I know you might say I'm dumb and need to do my research, but I honestly have never had to take these meds, usually I have my go to's for congestion, cough syrup and saline spray, but this came with years of trial and error.

I'm guessing not American then. No matter, I'd probably recognize at least some foreign OTC stuff. But you said you have go-to's? What are they? You mentioned cough syrup and saline spray, I assume these work for you?

This is still going somewhere, I still promise.

a reply to: Nyiah
Not sure if you have all the same products. Flo naise, acc 200, vitamins and wood peppermint cough syrup.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: rickymouse
I see way more conservatives taking the vaccine around here than liberals. Liberal people don't believe there is enough evidence. Remember, liberals are the far right and far and hard left, they want change. Conservatives believe in the medical industry and in specialists like Fauchi, most believe that this vaccine is safe and effective.

I do not know how it is in other places around the country, I only see what is around here.

What part of the country do you live in? I don't know any Conservative that believes in anything Fauci says, nor do they trust a rushed vaccine. Some may, but most do not.

Conservatives around here want things to go back to normal and believe Fauchi when he says it is safe and effective. They want to go to the fair, go have a get together with friends or go out for breakfast or lunch. They want to go to Finn Fest, go watch the fireworks with their kids and grandkids, go to the beach with their kids and go visit relatives in other areas. So they believe Fauchi and got the vaccine...to get back to normal since this virus has been so blown out of shape...their desire to just enjoy socializing is steering them to believe Fauchi and the CDC.

This virus is a wimp. So many food and spice/herb chemistries disable it. These agencies could tell people the whole truth, the pharma companies have been designing drugs off of this chemistry.

a reply to: kykweer

This thread has some logic to it but you dont count couple of variables.
Like our immune system. Or that we dont care anyway. Why are you so afraid of dying? A third of the mankind could get "the white robes" (in heaven) but that's still ok. Everyone will die anyway. I'll not submit to their snake oil sale no matter what. Dying, taking couple of them with me, doesnt matter. Get a testosterone jab instead and prepare for war

originally posted by: kykweer
a reply to: Nyiah
Not sure if you have all the same products. Flo naise, acc 200, vitamins and wood peppermint cough syrup.

Flonase is sold over here, corticosteroid nasal spray for allergies, we know it. Acc 200 I had to look up, but I'm impressed with how multi-purpose a simple expectorant can be. If this one is OTC in the US, I've never seen it. The peppermint cough syrup sounds like a nice change from our stereotypical cherry or grape flavorings. We do use the same active ingredient, guaifenesin, in our cough/cold/flu products.

Would we consider simple things like expectorants, antipyretics (fever reducers) or even suppressants a prophylactic measure or a mitigating one?

We're still going somewhere, train's not at the station yet.

a reply to: BlackArrow
You made the claim..back it the hell up! That's how it works here!

Theory being floated.

The vaccines are weakening the human immune system.

You will be compelled to get a boosters for life, to keep you from getting really sick, if you do catch covid-19.

A huge perpetual money maker for pharmaceutical companies.

That is why they were so eager to create vaccines for the barely lethal covid-19.

originally posted by: carewemust
Theory being floated.

The vaccines are weakening the human immune system.

You will be compelled to get a boosters for life, to keep you from getting really sick, if you do catch covid-19.

A huge perpetual money maker for pharmaceutical companies.

That is why they were so eager to create vaccines for the barely lethal covid-19.

If the vax is weakening my immune system, I havent noticed. My grands and DIL had strep last month and my son had regular flu back in Mar. I was exposed to both ahd already had the pfizer vax. So far so good.

a reply to: kykweer

The measures were not draconian, if you had to get somewhere like visit a sick relative, you just told the cops at the checkpoint. Everyone just hankered down and kept in their bubble without whining, and it was over. A seriously good lockdown is just simple sense. A real lockdown, not these half-arsed ones they have in Australia then it's over. It is all back to normal here, touch wood they won't import it back in.