Trump Was Right - Herd Immunity via Covid-19 Recovery is The Way to Go.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I had my case of covid treated in a hospital, and I admit that it wasn't scary.
I have antibodies too now.
But my boss is urging me to get vaccinated.
I'm not going to do it.

a reply to: butcherguy

I had to for travel reasons. I'm just not willing to deal with the hassles of constantly getting tested every other week.

a reply to: Breakthestreak

And how many black vp and presidents have you had?..
I'll wait.
While I wait how many black house reps and senators does the racist GOP have?
And you call us racist.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: tanstaafl
I'll trust the Mayo Clinic. You, not at all.

Your wish is your command.

And it's 'Salk', FFS.

No, actually, it really is Saul FFS...

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
Long before the smallpox vaccine, it was known that contracting and recovering from cowpox also provided immunity from smallpox. It was common for everyone in a household with a cow to take their turns milking and tending to the cows in order to contract cowpox and develop their own immunities against small pox.

That's basically the same thing as being vaccinated, taking a weaker dose of the actual virus and allowing your body to build immunity.

So what? That's (vaxing instead) like opting for Elmer's over Gorilla to me.

I'm not feeling spiffy today. Could it be a cold? Maybe. Could it be the Rona? Maaaaybe. Do I care? Not really, I'm actually a little stoked to feel like crap, been a LONG damn time since my immune system did any REAL work for me.

I'll survive the Scratchy Throat, Headache & Sniffles 2021.

Hope you get better soon,Nyiah.👍👍

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
But I have to stress that -- as a whole -- we did not even try treating Covid naturally.

Well, I treated it 'naturally'. I got it and got better. It's the flu, basically.

For you , maybe, but for people with comorbidity such as obesity, diabetes, hypertension, or simply the elderly getting it "naturally" isn't an option because it presents them with a higher than is acceptable risk. So vaccination is by far the better methord.

Equally, you may get covid "naturally" and be asymptomatic, or not show symptoms for several days. In which case you may inadvertently spread it to people who have comorbidity. In which case you might be OK, but the person sitting behind you on your morning commute that you infect might not be as I doubt that you're too keen on mask wearing.

Another factor is that the more people who get it "naturally" the more likely that a new strain or variant will emerge. These things so far have primarily come from densely packed areas with minimal vaccination. For example the London transport system befor ethe Vax was introduced, or the slums of India and Peru. We simply aren't seeing these dangerous variants coming from small towns with small populations, or wealthy areas where people can socially distance naturally.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I had my case of covid treated in a hospital, and I admit that it wasn't scary.
I have antibodies too now.
But my boss is urging me to get vaccinated.
I'm not going to do it.

It's free, and it gives you extra protection on top of what you already have.

This is like a gun store offering you a free Glock with your AR15, Or Netflix offering you a years worth of Disney+

Or a hooker offering to bring her friend in for free.

Did I mention that it's free, and that gives you more protection?

Would it help if I told you that this vaccine was researched and approved by the Trump administration, and Trump himself urged people to get it. By refusing to get vaxxed you're spitting on his legacy and giving Biden a free pass to introduce vaccine passports.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

If you can't figure out nobody gives a damn, you're the problem, not everyone else. God damn, go peddle # on the streetcorner, ya dealer hook-up wannabe.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: carewemust

At that IFR there would have been at least 1.5 million deaths in the US and probably higher before herd imunity was reached.

That also ignores other long term complications from contracting covid.

It remains to be seen if the drug deaths, suicides, ruined marriages, delayed student learning, etc.. was worth saving an additional 1 million lives.

Remember, 94% of those who died had 3 or more existing medical conditions anyway.

And, at least 2.8 million people die in America, year after year after year...

Wow! So eager to throw the lives of possibly 1M people away just for the sake of being right? I’m sorry but that’s not the human spirit or what we should allows humans to become. There is help for drug addiction, their are mental health options for those considering suicide, marriage counseling and many option for tutoring children which by the education of your kids should start at your house.

1 million lives you are willing to send to their deaths… just wow… that’s what passes as conservative doctrine nowadays.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Your wish is your command.

Of course it is, I don't need you to tell me that.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
For you , maybe, but for people with comorbidity such as obesity, diabetes, hypertension, or simply the elderly getting it "naturally" isn't an option because it presents them with a higher than is acceptable risk. So vaccination is by far the better methord.

I did both, bro.

a reply to: Bunch

If we save 5 million by completely opening up and never locking down again, would that be stupid?

I prefer math to your feelz.

a reply to: carewemust

Quit talking common sense...this is America.

originally posted by: vonclod
Do you ever tire of polishing Trumps balls?

Best on ATS Award winner!

Still I also love all the facts the OP posted each one attributed to wait who? Oh right he would have to dumb it waaaay down for his cult followers!

I don't quite understand it. Trump gets credit for the fast development and distribution of the vaccine but Trump supporters still don't want to get it? "Science" is accused of making more out of Covid than is necessary and people try to use "science" to prove that up?

And now:
"All the new Covid cases are among unvaccinated people so leave us alone." You mean there actually IS a danger from Covid and that the vaccines actually DO work?

Damn, the cognitive dissonance is just dumbfounding.