Good news on Ivermectin

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well if someone can't even be bothered to verify their own numbers why should anyone give them any respect.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations

33% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
5.13 billion doses have been administered globally, and 36.21 million are now administered each day.
Only 1.6% of people in low-income countries have received at least one dose.

Unfortunately, they only count the profit-making shots and not any adverse reactions in most of the world. So who knows the real toll. So any metric would be a waste of time.


Looking on the site above Sweden - is currently -7.29% below expected mortality and has been since February.
US +12% UK+7% wonder who got the right behavior for a killer viral infection?

IF we are lucky by the time the whole world is fully vaccinated, we will have the booster shots manufactured locally to ensure a ready supply of jabs. Do you think we'll get a working supply chain in place to jab 8 billion people quarterly to return to normal? Fauci admits vaccines have a very short shelf life and become useless.

IF only there was a viable therapeutic???

originally posted by: puzzled2

Looking on the site above Sweden - is currently -7.29% below expected mortality and has been since February.
US +12% UK+7% wonder who got the right behavior for a killer viral infection?

IF we are lucky by the time the whole world is fully vaccinated, we will have the booster shots manufactured locally to ensure a ready supply of jabs. Do you think we'll get a working supply chain in place to jab 8 billion people quarterly to return to normal? Fauci admits vaccines have a very short shelf life and become useless.

IF only there was a viable therapeutic???

Well COVID isn't that bad unless you are older or unhealthy. Those might need a booster, the rest not so much. I got my two COVID shots so I'm done as I'm not in the high risk category.

It is really hard to judge since COVID is based on age and health. Sweds could be younger and healthier than UK or US... Over 1/2 of all sweds have received at least one vaccine, so not sure your point.

There are other factors like how many live in a household, the density of the local population etc.

One thing most are aware of now is COVID will run its course and the lock downs were basically useless. We are not in the 2nd or 3rd wave of COVID, we are still in the first wave that was delayed by some lock downs BUT will continue. It looks like the vaccine is reducing the seriousness of it all, and hopefully Ivermectin is at least 50% as good as people are suggesting.

None of this was ever about reducing infection, its all about reducing reactions. For some reason we got off the path and stopping infection isn't possible.

Good news. Bad news.

I have absolutely no issues with people using Ivermectin, or any other drug for that matter, off-label to try to keep the monsters at bay.

But for your own sake, make sure you use the formulations intended for humans, which is different that the formulation for animals in more ways than the prescribed dosage by weight.

And make sure you get the full scoop from the prescribing physician, who, if he or she is wise, will also have you sign an off-label informed consent.

Texans are using cow dewormer to treat COVID. Poison calls have skyrocketed.

Nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, hallucinations, high blood pressure, seizures and comas.

These are the symptoms described to the Texas Poison Control Network by people who, in a desperate attempt to prevent or treat COVID-19 infections, are taking a drug bought at a feed store and intended to deworm cattle and horses.

There have been 260 calls for ivermectin poisoning in 2021 through August.

I know most of you are informed about it, but too many it seems are not.

We should all just be careful if and when we speak about it to be very clear about the information we give out, some of which is stated above, because it's harming people.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

a reply to: Xtrozero

It really irks me when people say this is the fourth wave. I'd say we're nearing the end of the second. With the third still to come at the end of this winter when a new variant will more than likely appear.

a reply to: GravitySucks

There have been 260 calls for ivermectin poisoning in 2021 through August.

You just feel crappy, get the #s, and puke. Mostly.

Huh, sounds worse than the symptoms most experience from either COVID or the vaccines.

"I seen it on the bitchute."

a reply to: Phage

Crappy yes. But in people who are just guessing at a dose and guess wrong, they can have some really crappy neurological outcomes.

There are some dog breeds that have a mutant gene that allows Ivermectin to cross the brain barrier. Humans have this gene, and not enough studies have been done to conclude that some people may have the mutation. You can get tested for it, but most people probably wouldn't.

The gene is called MDR1 in dogs.

"In humans, there are two MDR genes: MDR1, which is involved in transport of many antitumor agents, and MDR2 which is involved in phospholipid transport." [Source]

a reply to: GravitySucks

I did say "mostly."

There are always outliers. So, it may not be a good idea to self medicate with veterinary worming meds.

Even if you seen it on bitchute.

a reply to: Phage

You did.

One thing I don't get? How can people be so anti the mRNA vaccines, which in a way are repurposed and also being used off-label and go for a drug that has had relatively little to far less testing done on humans?

a reply to: GravitySucks

Yeah. You haven't been here that long, I guess. It took me a couple, three years to come to terms with the mentality. Sort of.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

It really irks me when people say this is the fourth wave. I'd say we're nearing the end of the second. With the third still to come at the end of this winter when a new variant will more than likely appear.

When you look at where the virus is it is hitting harder in the places where they didn't get hit yet, So we see it in the south, Mid West now more than East or West coast.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

One thing I don't get? How can people be so anti the mRNA vaccines, which in a way are repurposed and also being used off-label and go for a drug that has had relatively little to far less testing done on humans?

They see it as GMO, so its bad... The organic crowd have been very good at commercializing their product as the only good thing to eat. They had to do something to explain the extremely high cost of their foods, so they invented the whole GMO is bad for you, that it will change you at the cellular level so on and so forth.

I asked one person here if golden rice was bad. That is where they GMOed beta-carotene into rice so that you get vitamin A with your rice. The important part is there are many places where people die from the lack of vitamin A and this helps them. He said it is very bad...

So here we have an evil GMOed vaccine... This is why people are like we don't have 5 year long term studies, so they have the same ideas the organic people have been pushing. When I say that protein can only last 3 weeks at best and that is if the body isn't trying hard to get rid of it there is nothing left in you after that, so blood clots, Myocarditis should show up within that time or at the most within a month of getting your last shot, so I ask what do you think 3 years later would be? No answer while still being a factors to them.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: Phage

One thing I don't get? How can people be so anti the mRNA vaccines, which in a way are repurposed and also being used off-label and go for a drug that has had relatively little to far less testing done on humans?

The bolded part of your statement/query is untrue. mRNA vax is a very specific bit of engineering, in that it targets specifically the spike protein, and thus is not 'repurposed', nor 'off-label'.

Ivermectin has been used in humans for decades with little issue. Although, I would have to agree; That going off to your local "feed and grain" to get the drug is a dangerous proposition. Ivermectin, like all other drugs should be prescribed by One's Physician, and taken in accordance with the Doctor's instruction.

I've been prescribed Ivermectin because of my current health parameters, I take it as prescribed. My only question is; How long can I do this and not have any nasty side effects? I've been unable to find long term studies into this issue. Fortunately, I have an appointment in a few days, and I'll be able to get better clarity on Ivermectin.

When initially prescribed, about 6mo ago, I didn't understand much of what my Doctor was saying. So I started to research Ivermectin specifically. It turns out that it is nearly as effective against Covis19 as any of the shots, and at least over the short term, vastly safer.. I'm sort of "data" person, in that I like large amounts of data to 'backup' my decisions. I can find plenty of data that suggests that any of the vaxxes are probably not safe for my physical conditions, and of course absolutely no long term data. As for Ivermectin; it hasn't been used in this manner before, and the FDA's drug database is updated rather slowly, so I/We get to wait for an update that might include adverse events due to Ivermectin.

So far the data suggest that Ivermectin is much better tolerated than any of the Covid19 vaccines. With all the "data prejudice" I'm seeing here, I'm sure someone will disagree.

a reply to: Jimy718

Thanks, Storing that away and revising my Ted Talk.

a reply to: Jimy718

So I started to research Ivermectin specifically. It turns out that it is nearly as effective against Covis19 as any of the shots,

There are some studies which indicate this. Others which do not.

Which sort of study were you most interested in?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Jimy718

So I started to research Ivermectin specifically. It turns out that it is nearly as effective against Covis19 as any of the shots,

There are some studies which indicate this. Others which do not.

Which sort of study were you most interested in?

ALL that I could find!

a reply to: Jimy718

Can you provide one or two which were particularly convincing?

Upfront, I am not interested in a gish gallop.

a reply to: Phage

hi kiddo, you're a gish galloping expert.

You've already stated

There are always outliers. So, it may not be a good idea to self-medicate with veterinary worming meds.

Which you will use the "well I'm right you shouldn't use veterinary worming meds." to avoid criticism.

Try keeping the topic on the human-approved Ivermectin tablets instead of diverting the topic.

You're very good at weaseling in these get out of debate clauses.
We get it you are against therapeutics but as an unqualified anonymous poster on a conspiracy website who carries no weight.

Who cares nothing you say, or do effects decisions anywhere.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Jimy718

Can you provide one or two which were particularly convincing?

Upfront, I am not interested in a gish gallop.

I probably should have been a bit more specific in my last reply. What I look for in this regard are typically Meta Analyses. That way I can benefit from several studies in one article.

So, here is the best gish gallop I found: Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

This is from the NIH so... There are also other links there to other good material.

So I can buy it from pet shop boys? That's good news.
All you need is a brain and a scale to measure a dose per kilogram of body weight.
Not that I care about this cold. I'd rather seasonally use natural quinine from Cinchona bark.
I need to research tho if quinine is efficient enough against parasites. These are real. Most of the population is infested. Third world? Forget about it. All of them.
At the end of the day it's the price for a dose that matters too. Natural stuff can be expensive.