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Ex-government chief for UFO investigations: US considering extraterrestrial hypothesis

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posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 08:42 AM
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New article by Tom Rogan in the Washington Examiner




Elizondo pushed back against that report's purported assertion, as first reported by the New York Times, that the government has no evidence to indicate an "extraterrestrial" origin for these UFOs. Elizondo told the Washington Examiner that the government has evidence to indicate that the most extraordinary UFOs are not "human-made machines





Elizondo says it is a credible line of government inquiry that these UFOs are "extraterrestrial, extra-dimensional," or the creation of an Earth-based intelligence entirely unknown to our human society.


Lue is trying to get out ahead of the government report in case it's as vague as some think it might be.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: vlawde

This bothers me “In deference to his continuing security clearance obligations, Elizondo would not offer more information on this specific topic when pressed.”

You can’t have your cake and eat it to.....

For all intents and purposes Elizar is an ex-government employee Whistleblower!

How could he expect to retain his clearance when he is going against his ex-employer? He’s lucky his clearance hasn’t been stripped already in bucking the government status quo.

I don’t get it....

I smell a devious Psyop but don’t know how to pin it down....I simply don’t trust the man.

Look at it this way......Elizar and Mellon were(are) in possession of stolen videos that were not to be leaked. Isn’t that in itself a crime? Stolen government property.....that alone calls for security clearances to be suspended and stripped, should it not?

If Elizar made a personal and conscious decision to Whistleblow, then he also made a decision to loose his clearance.

Elizar......don’t half step the Whistleblow, if your fighting for the people, as you say, then do the full Whistleblow and forget about the your clearance! Which is more important, the People or the Clearance? Now’s not the time to be a Bu11$hit Artist. The people don’t need more of them!

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posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1




If Elizar made a personal and conscious decision to Whistleblow, then he also made a decision to loose his clearance.

Maybe he isn't prepared to go to jail for it though.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Ophiuchus1




If Elizar made a personal and conscious decision to Whistleblow, then he also made a decision to loose his clearance.

Maybe he isn't prepared to go to jail for it though.


He should have thought of that before helping to open the UFO Pandora’s Box.

On the plus side of jail....he’ll definitely have the solitude time to write books, memoirs, tv documentaries...etc.

So when he gets out, he would be a living martyr for the UFO community by taking one for the team...that is to say, us. He’ll probably manage to get a book(s) on the NYT Bestseller list. He won’t have to worry about making civilian money.

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posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 10:14 AM
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I highly doubt he's going to jail. He's walked a fine line between what he's sad and what he hasn't said, a technical consideration so he doesn't betray his oath.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 10:20 AM
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This bothers me “In deference to his continuing security clearance obligations, Elizondo would not offer more information on this specific topic when pressed.”
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Clearance terms and conditions can last well beyond the term of that particular clearance. Some span decades, well into retirement.




How could he expect to retain his clearance when he is going against his ex-employer? He’s lucky his clearance hasn’t been stripped already in bucking the government status quo.


A clearance is for a particular job. I think you are confused with what a clearance level is (job specific) and what Tier Background check you have. I have worked in areas where I had security levels that lasted only a month or so, depending on the job length. When the job was over, you are de-briefed, and sign a SF-312 (For DOD) that relieve you of the clearance under that job, and gives you non-disclosure information.

People get a clearance and a background check confused all the time. A background check determines what security clearances you can hold. They are now (Since July of 2020) good for 5 years. A clearance is only active while you are working on the job.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: vlawde

" an Earth-based intelligence entirely unknown to our human society"

For some reason that possibility creeps me out more than aliens.
Because if another intelligent earth based species has been at least mostly trying to hide from us for millenia-what does that say about us?

It says we are a crazy violent predator species,who needs to be kept well away from.


Whatever the case,its obvious the governments have never been truthful about UFOs and how they have always been secretly interested in the subject and likley know far more than they ever let on.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 11:03 AM
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Whistleblowers????? What a load of shi##. If you are a whistleblower let me give you a word of advice, very, very important advice, If you've got ANY evidence (Elizondo etc.) come out with it immediately. Don't hang about hyping the situation up because that tells everybody that you're scamming. JUST COME OUT WITH IT. But they wont cos they've got nothing.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 11:51 AM
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The challenge with being a U.S. Govt UFO whistleblower is that it is virtually impossible to prove any claims you have. All you can do is try to change the legislation on who has rights to the technology.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: vlawde

Going to be a "Blockbuster"!: www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: vlawde

Going to be a "Blockbuster"!: www.abovetopsecret.com...



One can hope, but my expectations are low



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: vlawde

Going to be a "Blockbuster"!: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's a sneak preview, courtesy of the Black Vault, I hope you're sitting down for this:




posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

Minor redactions...



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Well, if we take into account Wernher Von Braun's warning that, "they would have rouge states, then terrorism, then they will fake an alien attack on cities" so apparently they can bring in a one-world government, uniting all humans to weaponize space against the 'aliens'.

Let's just speculate that that is somehow outlining a plan for the NWO. One thing Elizondo or the Sec Def said was that if these vehicles exist and they thought they were Chinese or Russian, there would be funding the size of buildings to figure out the problem, tech, etc. Same with any advanced vehicles no matter their origin. Perhaps they feel science has advanced enough to take on the challenge, or they want to bring out technology they can't explain unless they can show they acquired some of these vehicles in crash scenarios and reverse-engineered the tech. Perhaps the climate change problem is requiring a new energy and propulsion technology to be revealed as the only way to do away with fossil fuels. There is a lot to consider.

Hearing that and Elizondo being from the inside raised the question of a psyop to reveal a threat to get funding and backing for their globalist plot. Personally, I think we need to approach space as a human race and a united planet. As soon as humans realize what is upon us, that will probably follow. Either that or complete chaos!

There is always a reason to suspect anything coming from gov especially when they make an abrupt about-face and release evidence that leaves people with little doubt. That is a big reveal for a gov that refused to admit to anything up until recently.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Ophiuchus1




If Elizar made a personal and conscious decision to Whistleblow, then he also made a decision to loose his clearance.

Maybe he isn't prepared to go to jail for it though.


He should have thought of that before helping to open the UFO Pandora’s Box.

On the plus side of jail....he’ll definitely have the solitude time to write books, memoirs, tv documentaries...etc.

So when he gets out, he would be a living martyr for the UFO community by taking one for the team...that is to say, us. He’ll probably manage to get a book(s) on the NYT Bestseller list. He won’t have to worry about making civilian money.


Making your family homeless and spending years in a federal penitentiary is not that appealing to some people.

Easy to be a keyboard though guy though.



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Sublant

It’s not about being a keyboard tough guy....

It’s about being truthful with yourself.

If you can’t be truthful with yourself, then you can’t be truthful with your own family, friends, and the people that are in need of help.....the UFO community.

Not tough at all...really


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posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: vlawde

Going to be a "Blockbuster"!: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's a sneak preview, courtesy of the Black Vault, I hope you're sitting down for this:


Where’s the Marvin The Martian Depixelator? To sub-atomically break down and remove the redaction pixels?
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posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: vlawde

" an Earth-based intelligence entirely unknown to our human society"


OK so the new "spin" is that the UFO phenom is from here, not space.
WHAT Won't they do to avoid admitting we're being visited by things from Off-World. Looks like this is just another twisted disinformation line being fed to us by someone to keep the Gennie locked up in the bottle!!



posted on Jun, 15 2021 @ 09:00 PM
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An "Earth based intelligence entirely unknown to our human society " is a rather vague description.

It could mean an advanced biological entity, indigenous to the planet, but as yet undiscovered by humanity, for whatever reason(s).

It could mean an entity, either biological or non-biological, that, although not indigenous to Earth, has established residence on Earth for a sufficiently long period so as to be considered "Earth-based".

And, although at the relatively far end of the probability scale, it could even mean some sort of indigenous (likely human-devised) non organic intelligence that has achieved a level of sentience (here's looking at you, A***o!).



posted on Jun, 16 2021 @ 12:43 AM
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Heads Up!

“ Washington(CNN) Members of the House Intelligence Committee will receive a classified briefing on Wednesday morning on one of the most controversial topics circulating in Washington today: UFOs.

The briefing, which was confirmed to CNN by two sources familiar with the committee's plans, comes just weeks before the US intelligence community is scheduled to deliver an unclassified report on the matter for Congress. According to one committee source, Wednesday's briefing will be conducted by the Navy and FBI.”

Government UFO report is the product of years of military infighting over whether to take sightings seriously

Source: CNN news.google.com... d=US%3Aen


What! No Air Force ancillary input???

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