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originally posted by: Romeopsi
I have had 2 sightings and didn't report either one.
In this remarkable collection you won't find gaggles of stuffy scientists postulating what UFOs are or are not. Instead, refreshingly, here are folks from every walk of life reporting their UFO experiences in disturbing detail, sometimes right after they occur, and sometimes as they happen in real-time-witnesses in denial or scared out of their wits, or people who simply seek an explanation following the most bizarre event their lives will ever know.
The depth of military and government agency involvement or cooperation evidenced in these telephone recordings, it must be noted, simply astounds.
Robert Gribble's Audio UFO Collection.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: karl 12
Yes, this situation represents yet another conspiracy of silence, with many participating for decades.
Yet, heading back to what the government says, and this statement does come straight from the Pentagon, "no government agency has taken an interest in investigating [UFOs] since the closure of Blue Book in 1969."
Something does not line up, because here we are, faced with hundreds of documents slamming right through that 1969 cut off date, and going right into being in just the last few years.
It finally ended up on the desk of Air Force Chief of Staff General Hoyt Vandenberg. General Vandenberg was decidedly unimpressed with the report, believing that it lacked proof. The "Estimate" was rejected and subsequently ordered to be declassified and burned.
At least two witnesses, Captain Edward Ruppelt and Major Dewey Fournet, attested to the fact that at least one copy of the document survived into 1952.
UFOs: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT, SECRECY, AND DOCUMENTS - Barry Greenwood
"The appearances are usually described as disks, sometimes as balls or ellipsoids. It sometimes happens that these disks place one upon the other, the largest in the center, the smaller toward the ends, to form an object the shape of a cigar, which then flies away with high speed. Sometimes one already saw such a cigar (UFO) stopping and untie into separate disks. The disks always fly in a manner as if the drive is acting perpendicular to the plane of the disk; when they are suspended over a certain terrain they keep horizontal; when they want to fly very quick, they tilt (tip) and fly with the plane directed forward. In sunlight, which is brighter than their own gleaming, they appear glittering like metal. They are dark orange and cherry red at night, if there is not much power necessary for the particular movement, for instance, when they are suspended calm. Then, they also do not shine very much. If more driving power is necessary, the shining increases (brightens) and they appear yellow, yellow-green, green like a copper flame and in a state of highest speed or acceleration extremely white. Sometimes they suddenly blink or extinguish.Their speed is sometimes very high, 19 km/sec has been measured with wireless measuring instruments (radar). Accelerations are so high that no man could stand it; he would be pressed to the wall and bruised. The accuracy of such measurements has not been doubted. If there would be only 3 or 4 measurements, I would not rely upon them and would wait for further measurements, but there is existing more than 50 such measurements; the wireless sets (radar) of the American Air Force and Navy, which are used in all fighters, cannot be so inaccurate that the information obtained with them can be doubted completely".
Profesor Hermann Oberth, pioneer of rocketry - teacher of Dr. Werner von Braun
Oberth, H., "Flying Saucers Come From A Distant World", The American Weekly, Oct 24, 1954
originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Thank You for the link….I remember coming across the Project 1947 website a long ways back……yes much to read 👍🏼
The story, which is unmasked by the governments’ own documents, explains much that is new, or at least not commonly known, about the seriousness with which the military and intelligence communities approached the UFO problem internally.
UFOs And Government
... then Wernher von Braun's mentor (and father of modern rocketry) Professor Hermann Oberth...
3rd February 1959:
"One of our aims is to expose frauds; another is to convince the press and public that this is a serious problem despite the ridicule...caused by the official debunking policy, which is now used to obscure the concerned and intensive investigation of Air Force and other agencies," or "There is a mass of evidence supporting our claims as to UFO reality and official censorship.."
Journal of UFO History - A Publication of the Donald E. Keyhoe Archives
Dutch KLM Pilot Mark Juch shares his UFO (UAP) close encounter. He has been silent for more than two decades but finally speaks out about his UFO sighting.
originally posted by: Erno86
That possibly shows that when the UAP/UFO wants to maneuver in a high speed mode during nighttime in our atmosphere...it will perform visibly as a "bright blue light". So I'm speculating that the UAP reported by the KLM pilot is operating in at least one of it's high power modes --- Possibly meaning that the blue (plasma???) light is being a source of some kind of power function or fuel, along with the blue light being contained by a magnetic field of some sort.
All UFO colors stem from energetic, ionizing radiation or radiations, generated by the UFO, which ionize the air.
Of all the visible colors, red and orange correspond to the least energy. They are also the two most common colors associated with UFO low-power operation, such as hovering or low-power maneuvers. The electrons have been given the ionization energy, but not much more, and cascade down in small energy drops corresponding to red or orange. This is statistically probable, as there are more small drops available than big ones.
UNCONVENTIONAL FLYING OBJECTS, A Scientific Analysis by Paul R. Hill
originally posted by: peskyhumans
Sheeple doing what sheeple do best. I find it disgusting that they would refuse to speak out.
"The type of UFO reports that are most intriguing are close-range sightings of machine-like objects of unconventional nature and unconventional performance characteristics, seen at low altitudes, and sometimes even on the ground. The general public is entirely unaware of the large number of such reports that are coming from credible witnesses... When one starts searching for such cases, their number are quite astonishing. Also, such sightings appear to be occurring all over the globe."
(Hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, July 29, 1968.)
Dr. James E. McDonald, Senior Physicist at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona
"There is a [military] publication called JANAP 146E that has a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000 fine and ten years in jail. So the secret has been kept."
Lieutenant Frederick Fox
10 years inprisonment / $10,000 fine.
On February 13th (1954), Jim G. Lucas of Scripps Howard reported that representatives of major airlines were planning to meet in Los Angleles with intelligence officers of the Military Air Transport Service.
The purpose was to speed up UFO reporting procedures. Lucas wrote that airline pilots were reporting large numbers of UFOs during their flights and were now being asked "not to discuss their sightings publicly or give them to newspapers".
Lucas had accurate information. On February 17th 1954 ,officers of the Military Transport Intelligence met with officials of the Airline Pilots Union at the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood.
The goal of the meeting was to implement JANAP 146,specifically to arrange for pilots to radio UFO reports to the nearest airport and make no public statements about them.
Violations brought prison terms of up to ten years and/or a fine of $10,000.
Scripps Howards papers followed up on February 23rd to report that
"the nation´s 8,500 commercial airline pilot have been seeing a lot of unusual objects while flying at night, here and overseas".
It confirmed that plans for a detailed reporting system were agreed upon to enable the air force to investigate UFOs quickly.
Each airline had an internal security specialist to meet with the Air Force.
'UFOs And The National Security State'