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Pfizer plans to request emergency use authorization for 12- to 15-year-olds in the coming weeks.

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posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Me and the wife are ahem practicing for minion #2 and both of us made the decision that no way will we put an experimental drug into our bodies while trying to create a new life.



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 04:51 PM
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Did you know new studies have shown that pregnant women who are vaccinated pass it on (the gene 'therapy') to their babies? Who knows what that's going to do.
Not to mention who knows about future studies from the male side.

passing on 'protection'

news.yahoo.com...


www.msn.com...


a reply to: Irishhaf



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: MrRCflying
About time. The test should have been done along with the adult testing. This fear mongering over a vaccine that people do not take the time to research and understand, has gotten to be too much.

I have had it, my wife has had it, a lot of people in my family have had it. I will have my kids get it, when it is approved.


Have mine as well. Perhaps the syrup will give you a backbone while it peels your skin off.
edit on 31-3-2021 by Dalamax because: Beer is social lubricant



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: MrRCflying
About time. The test should have been done along with the adult testing. This fear mongering over a vaccine that people do not take the time to research and understand, has gotten to be too much.

I have had it, my wife has had it, a lot of people in my family have had it. I will have my kids get it, when it is approved.


Here's the problem, that is your right, but others may or may not agree with your purely anecdotal and early evidence. As long as the vaccinations aren't mandatory and not getting them isn't exclusionary or prohibitive in any way shape or form I got no problem with that. The inference here is that if children don't have this rushed-to-market vaccine, they may be excluded form school etc.

Not to mention just to arbitrarily proclaim it's now okay for 12-15-year-olds the differences in maturity and physiologics in kids vary tremendously, they have nothing but an educated guess as to it's safety not to mention it's effectiveness. Not to mention it's likely to have the same effect and success ratio as the flu vaccine which is about 70% and you need to get it every year, for something that isn't even marginally lethal for kids






Here is the problem. Most of the time if someone expresses a different opinion than what is in the echo chamber at the moment, it is immediately mashed upon.

You did not do this, and I thank you!

There are plenty of vaccines that are mandatory to attend school. Some of them I don't like. I think the chicken pox vaccine is ridiculous. That being said, I agree with you. It should not be mandatory, at some time it probably will though.

I am not going to go into the effectiveness, etc. They are the experts in having testing done, not me. I will, and have done, my research on it though. By what I have seen, all the negatives are hype and fear mongering. It is your choice though, take it or not, have your kids get it or not. I would rather protect my kids from long term problems associated with Covid, lung damage, heart problems, etc., than to worry about what I feel is an overblown reaction based in fiction and fear, over the vaccine.

I hope I am not wrong, but if I am, it is on me.


Steel your heart for when your kiddies cark it bud.



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:38 PM
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I am just going to take a break from this the mental strain is too much.

So many people are going to be blindsided by this that its heartbreaking.

We've stepped into an Orwellian nightmare already.

Companies do not seek immunity from adverse effects ts if they're not worried about adverse effects ts.

Politicians and health officials faked their jabbarooz and forgot the the cameras would pick it up (simple search for empty covid needle).

Why do you think the definition of gene therapy had to be changed? Phizer wanted that dollar! They could not get EUA for a gene therapy and so, instead, simply sought to have the definition of 'vaccine' changed to launch this health experiment on the world.

I'm fully heartbroken because my friends and family are getting this filth and they're now looking at me like some walking bio weapon when the total opposite is true.

Woe to those who call good evil and evil good!!!!



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: putnam6


Hmm...12 to 15 Year Olds . Puberty Blockers in the Vaccine ? Can't let Future Generations Reproduce can We ?



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
I am just going to take a break from this the mental strain is too much.

So many people are going to be blindsided by this that its heartbreaking.

We've stepped into an Orwellian nightmare already.

Companies do not seek immunity from adverse effects ts if they're not worried about adverse effects ts.

Politicians and health officials faked their jabbarooz and forgot the the cameras would pick it up (simple search for empty covid needle).

Why do you think the definition of gene therapy had to be changed? Phizer wanted that dollar! They could not get EUA for a gene therapy and so, instead, simply sought to have the definition of 'vaccine' changed to launch this health experiment on the world.

I'm fully heartbroken because my friends and family are getting this filth and they're now looking at me like some walking bio weapon when the total opposite is true.

Woe to those who call good evil and evil good!!!!
I'm gonna wait and see,myself.

Problem is,I got a daughter that turns 16 this year. If they try and force this on her due to school,I won't know what to do.



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:48 PM
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Fear not people, we shall all die choking on BS long before covid ever gets to us.
Wacky world, I'm about done with it.
Thank god I had a long and normal life before insanity took over.



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 05:57 PM
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Woe to those who call good evil and evil good!!!!


Well said!



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MrRCflying
I hope I am not wrong, but if I am, it is on me.


It's especially "on you" considering all of the vaccine manufacturers, doctors administering, and facilities producing these vaccines sought and obtained 100% iron clad global protection laws that shield them fully from any lawsuits or civil claims should these "vaccines" end up killing people left and right. That's actually a significant part of my personal rejection of these shots... if they are so confident in the efficacy and safety of these shots, why hide behind one of history's largest protective barriers? Companies that have faith in their product don't behave that way.


I've got a brother who is a Nurse down in Texas and of course, being on the front lines of this situation, has a very different view than I do about this whole situation. He's provided numerous links in his defense, and in defense of the speed and efficacy of the vaccine.

He really wants my parents to get it, and I have been kind of filling my parents ear with the downsides.

Would it be possible to provide me some links from reputable sources in regards to how this is "experimental gene therapy" and perhaps the link that ensured that the Vax Manufacturers were looking to get protection, even way back last Feb?

I remember reading it then, and the only link I can find in relation to that is from here.

Obviously a lot of the links you find in regards to the vaccine being gene therapy blatantly state otherwise, such as here

Any help would be nice.

If anyone is interested in the links he sent me, I could list them out, they obviously do provide a good case for him, as some of the articles were published by his Hospital. Though that provides a bias, as well as being the one dealing with it first hand. I'd still like to be able to provide a reasonable and substation counter.

Thanks!



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 09:14 PM
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anyone ever looked at the lawsuits... and pay outs against these companies...

In the billions due to false information

Profit vs lawsuits... IF profit is higher... distribute

:O
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posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: MrRCflying
One of the many reasons many are so against this particular jab is because you need the vaccine passport app to enter sporting events, theater plays, movie theaters, concerts. This is happening in many countries andis now being implemented in New York. When have we EVER had to pop up an app that says we're vaccinated to enter places that are not school or travel requirements? Anyone with a logical brain can see that's new and just not right.
Egypt has even admitted that they're doing the app thing to nudge people into taking the vaccine so that they can enjoy the things human beings enjoyed before March 2020.
To not even question if all of this has an agenda behind it baffles me. How can one be so sure they're NOT fabcricating ALL of the research about the long term effects of covid to push people into taking something that will kill or harm them in the future? We can't and assuming the government began caring about We The Peasants ain't it either.
Why are autopsies denied when it comes to people who have died shortly after getting the vaccine? Why is their excuse LITERALLY "well maybe it was their time to go just because it happened right after doesnt mean it was the vaccine that harmed/killed them."
Why does "every death matter" when it comes to covid but not when someones dies suspisciouly after the jab? Those were good human beings who were tricked into thinking they were doing the right thing for themselves and others but ended up dying because of it.
I too hope you're not wrong and rather that millions of people are wrong for the sake of everyone's health.



posted on Mar, 31 2021 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
I am just going to take a break from this the mental strain is too much.

So many people are going to be blindsided by this that its heartbreaking.

We've stepped into an Orwellian nightmare already.

Companies do not seek immunity from adverse effects ts if they're not worried about adverse effects ts.

Politicians and health officials faked their jabbarooz and forgot the the cameras would pick it up (simple search for empty covid needle).

Why do you think the definition of gene therapy had to be changed? Phizer wanted that dollar! They could not get EUA for a gene therapy and so, instead, simply sought to have the definition of 'vaccine' changed to launch this health experiment on the world.

I'm fully heartbroken because my friends and family are getting this filth and they're now looking at me like some walking bio weapon when the total opposite is true.

Woe to those who call good evil and evil good!!!!

The only thing you might be wrong about is that they "forgot" about the cameras and messed up. Eveything The Powers That Shouldn't Be do and allow us Peasants to see is most likely intentional and calculated. They WANT people who are against this "vaccine" and people who are 1000% for it. This will bring ultimate chaos and they love to keep the world in a constant state of chaos, division, and distractions. They also love their gematria code.
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posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 12:35 AM
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Pfizer has been a ‘habitual offender’ persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results.
Since 2002 the company and its subsidiaries have been assessed 3 billion dollars in CRIMINAL convictions, civil penalties and jury awards

tAkE tHe VaCciNe ......like a moron!



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: putnam6

China did it right. They let Covid-19 (to use Prez Trump's phrase) "Wash Through". By the end of the 2020, their epidemic was over.

The China things we SHOULD emulate, we don't. Go figure...



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 02:18 AM
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And 10 years from now when they find out that the vaccine actually compromises the human immune system to the point vaccines are required every single year to prevent even the common cold, well, then they'll have a captive audience, a group of millions of people with no other choice. Either get the latest vaccine...or die! Then they'll REALLY be in the money!

For all we know the vaccine could cause mass immune deficiency (almost like AIDS).

I just can't believe this whole covid thing is happening, it's like a really bad nightmare you can't wake up from!



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

The Chinese mentality is different than western mentality. To them, people are a numbers game. Their numbers are so great that they can take an attrition approach to just about every problem. In the west, every single person matters because the media makes it that way. If the focus ever changed to the way the Chinese do things the media would make the people take to the streets with torches and pitchforks.

One of the more surprising things about covid was, it was the first time I can ever recall China taking a national approach to a problem (for the people). And personally, I think this is proof of the fact that covid was really a bio-weapon which they accidentally/intentionally released into the wild. Then they realized the effectiveness of the weapon was not as bad as originally imagined, so they backed way off.



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 05:04 AM
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originally posted by: Cymru
a reply to: putnam6
If its 100% effective allow themselves to be sued by anyone negatively affected.

Probably not.


Being effective and having no side effects are two completely different thing. As you well know.

So please stop trying to segway one into the other.



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: carewemust

The Chinese mentality is different than western mentality. To them, people are a numbers game. Their numbers are so great that they can take an attrition approach to just about every problem. In the west, every single person matters because the media makes it that way. If the focus ever changed to the way the Chinese do things the media would make the people take to the streets with torches and pitchforks.

One of the more surprising things about covid was, it was the first time I can ever recall China taking a national approach to a problem (for the people). And personally, I think this is proof of the fact that covid was really a bio-weapon which they accidentally/intentionally released into the wild. Then they realized the effectiveness of the weapon was not as bad as originally imagined, so they backed way off.



Ex pat here, your 10% right and 90% wrong. Yes China plays the numbers game, but no to most everything else.

China has a large population of urban poor living in close quarters. Communicable diseases like Covid can race through this kind of population and if it is not knocked on the head ASAP it can cause massive social and economic upheaval.

China experienced SARS in the early 2000s, and if there was to be a repeat of those events people would riot in the streets.

Beijing moved directly on Covid to stop local officials trying to cover thing up, which they often do as they don't want to admit to things like this, which usually makes things worse.



posted on Apr, 1 2021 @ 05:21 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
And 10 years from now when they find out that the vaccine actually compromises the human immune system to the point vaccines are required every single year to prevent even the common cold, well, then they'll have a captive audience, a group of millions of people with no other choice. Either get the latest vaccine...or die! Then they'll REALLY be in the money!

For all we know the vaccine could cause mass immune deficiency (almost like AIDS).



Why would European countries agree to something like that?

Europe has socialised health care, what you are talking about would ruin their economies for absolutely no gain.

Why would China and Russia agree to this?

If they have strong populations they can rise to power over the weakened west. It makes no sense that they would poison their own people.

What about Israel?

No Israeli government would ever agree to this, they are so over protective they'd never do anything to weaken their population or harm their fertility rates as either of those things could doom the Jewish people to extinction.







 
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