The Rapture will be mistaken as an Alien Invasion

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Debunkology

God is outside of space and time.

I've heard that theory attributed so called "Extra-terrestrials".

originally posted by: neoholographic
Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

If you can control time and space, then there would be no need for Adam to fall into a deep sleep. He could have had his rib removed instantly. There would also be no need to close up the flesh either.

Sounds more like a terrifying alien abduction. Like many stories in the bible, it all makes far more sense when the so called "God" and "gods" are interpreted as just intelligent beings. We are made in "his" image afterall, light beings have no need for arms and legs and eyes and sex. Especially if they exist outside of time and space.

a reply to: neoholographic

God can turn back time on anything he desires,so turning back time to close the wound would be childsplay. since doing so created a little split in time God still had a rib as well.

a reply to: Debunkology

Your post proves my point. You said:

If you can control time and space, then there would be no need for Adam to fall into a deep sleep. He could have had his rib removed instantly. There would also be no need to close up the flesh either.

Exactly, He did these things for our benefit. So we would recognize the procedure. God could have created Eve the same way He did Adam from the dust of the ground.

He chose to carry out a surgery on Adam because people of today would recognize the procedure.

We can't comprehend things outside of our 3D perspective so God communicated with man in a garden or through a bush. When Paul visited what he called the Third Heaven, he realized he was seeing things outside of a human perspective.

2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth

4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Growing up raised by a Catholic mother and a Mormon father as a Mexican American, I find other christian faiths beliefs amusing in there own right in what specifics are believed and not believed. Being forced to bisect my beliefs in my formative years, as an adult i find taking logical pieces of many of earths main religions is the only way to truly amalgamate a logical faith system. No one needs a building to pray, no one needs permission to lead a good life. Nor should people feel the need to give 10 percent of there income to assuage peer pressure. whats important is to keep a positive mind and help others when you can. Maybe when we die, not everyone immediately goes to "heaven" either by choice or circumstance, and where we go if not heaven, doesn't have to be hell, some possibly turn to "angels" while others reincarnate to give there soul or to be given another chance to live and learn. Some could stay on earth as guardian spirits for there land or family, community. Oh the wonders to the many possibilities of our existence and the insane Russian roulette we play with our own henceforth.

originally posted by: neoholographic
I believe the Rapture will be mistaken as an Alien Invasion....
This is what will happen:

1. Clouds(U.F.O's) will cover the sky.

2. People will be shocked and scared.

3. Many people will be taken. This will be seen as an alien abduction..

I thought the rapture was supposed to look like this, where I see some clouds in the sky, but I wouldn't say clouds cover the sky:



Anyway I think the rapture is a myth, but there are some scientists trying to turn off gravity, and what happens when gravity gets turned off? Well if there's nothing holding you to the Earth, why couldn't you just float up into the sky like that?

Are these scientists about to SWITCH-OFF GRAVITY - and if they do what will happen?

A TEAM of research scientists may be on the cusp of switching-off GRAVITY itself, as part of a bid to develop warp-drive travel.

Without gravity there would be nothing to hold the people on Earth's surface, or the atmosphere. But I'm not worried, I don't think those scientists can turn off gravity with their theory.

Anyway, if some other scientist comes up with a better theory to turn off gravity that might actually work, they should turn gravity off somewhere else in the solar system, not on Earth.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

easier to reduce the ship and everything on board to zero gravity pull instead on its mass.

I'm sure a lot of anti-Semitic folks are actually hoping for those 144,000 Jewish male virgins to be hustled off the planet to somewhere safe while the rest of us hang behind.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Arbitrageur

easier to reduce the ship and everything on board to zero gravity pull instead on its mass.

The ship already has close to zero gravity. Go outside the ship and try to orbit it, it doesn't have enough gravity for that.

The gravity comes from much more massive objects like the Earth, the sun and the moon, where things can be placed in orbit.

Wherever you turn off gravity, it won't be easy. If it was easy we would have already figured out how to do it.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Arbitrageur

easier to reduce the ship and everything on board to zero gravity pull instead on its mass.

The ship already has close to zero gravity. Go outside the ship and try to orbit it, it doesn't have enough gravity for that.

The gravity comes from much more massive objects like the Earth, the sun and the moon, where things can be placed in orbit.

Wherever you turn off gravity, it won't be easy. If it was easy we would have already figured out how to do it.

Reducing the ship and its contents to ZERO MASS will allow infinite acceleration,without the need for infinite energy OR the inertia of motion on said ships crew. It is Actually That easy. the Black tris do it already.

Post seems off topic. I appreciate your efforts, but this is really just the wrong place for your religion based post. IIRC there are boards made specifically for this type of thing.

Your post boils down to this, you really like bologna and cheese sandwiches.

You make a post about bologna and cheese sandwiches, and you add speculation that maybe aliens will also enjoy bologna and cheese sandwiches, so you post it on the alien board.

No sir, your post belongs on the bologna and cheese sandwich board.

You're adding nothing to the UFO and alien discussion, but you are peddling some quotes from one of man's ancient control books.
You see, in the time before firearms, and weapons that allowed mass groups of people to be controlled, you had to control massive populations with indoctrination. Monarchies heavily edited this book to fit their needs, and even hundreds of years later, they have managed to convince people that these books are the word of God.
It's just incredible how well this system works. It's impressive, really. It's designed to be infectious, encouraging others to spread their indoctrination to other people.

Humanity as a whole, has evolved beyond the need for these antiquated control methods.
God can be real, God might even agree with some of the stuff in the Bible, but you really have to understand, that even if the Bible began as the word of God, it became the word of kings. kings are not God.
Look into the history of the Bible's edits. The evidence for this manipulation is very real, recorded in history, and all modern Bibles have been indisputably edited to fit the needs of governments and monarchies that existed well after it was originally created.

An ancient translation for "Have faith." is pretty much "Believe this lie."

Good luck out there, in the world of modern reality. It's no place for the lies of kings.

a reply to: Archivalist

its ignorant to think that people on a theory forum dont already know both sides, thats why we are all here. for more information, not regurgitations

a reply to: Raggedyman

And how about the people they hate? Or is it just a one way street but not having the Christian tag somehow makes it a little more ok? Has it not occurred to you that the common denominator here is people? I truly get what you are saying. 300% get it. Not gonna call you wrong, but let me just shade this a tad more. The field is wide and long. Jack-asses are everywhere, at every level and from all walks of life. Pride is at the core. Success is illusory, subjective and absolutely fleeting. As a race we have not really improved; we are still driven by the same sinful instincts. You are right, this is not a game.

a reply to: BiffTannen

The Christian tag should mean we are better, better at caring, better at loving, better at understanding those who are struggling, not better people with better standards and morals

We are supposed to be different because we care not because we think we are better

originally posted by: Archivalist
Post seems off topic. I appreciate your efforts, but this is really just the wrong place for your religion based post. IIRC there are boards made specifically for this type of thing.

Your post boils down to this, you really like bologna and cheese sandwiches.

You make a post about bologna and cheese sandwiches, and you add speculation that maybe aliens will also enjoy bologna and cheese sandwiches, so you post it on the alien board.

No sir, your post belongs on the bologna and cheese sandwich board.

You're adding nothing to the UFO and alien discussion, but you are peddling some quotes from one of man's ancient control books.
You see, in the time before firearms, and weapons that allowed mass groups of people to be controlled, you had to control massive populations with indoctrination. Monarchies heavily edited this book to fit their needs, and even hundreds of years later, they have managed to convince people that these books are the word of God.
It's just incredible how well this system works. It's impressive, really. It's designed to be infectious, encouraging others to spread their indoctrination to other people.

Humanity as a whole, has evolved beyond the need for these antiquated control methods.
God can be real, God might even agree with some of the stuff in the Bible, but you really have to understand, that even if the Bible began as the word of God, it became the word of kings. kings are not God.
Look into the history of the Bible's edits. The evidence for this manipulation is very real, recorded in history, and all modern Bibles have been indisputably edited to fit the needs of governments and monarchies that existed well after it was originally created.

An ancient translation for "Have faith." is pretty much "Believe this lie."

Good luck out there, in the world of modern reality. It's no place for the lies of kings.

The lies haven't stopped, the kings are puppets who parrot the lies of those who ARE in control, hidden from sight.

I agree with you, the Bible has been corrupted many times over the centuries, and still is today. It's used for manipulating the people, indeed so.

Despite all that, we can also find out what HAS been corrupted, reworded, edited, which is a good thing. How?

Because the Bible was written to say the same things, in different phrasing, and in different contexts, which cannot make sense if revised or corrupted in the same way as other phrases were, and they could not edit them, it would not only look silly, and obviously corrupted, plus, nobody wanted to risk getting caught tampering with the Bible, so they didn't edit everything the same way. Even if they COULD have, it would take a monumental effort, over many years, and it would still have looked stupid in the end, anyway.

So we can find the corruptions by it's inconsistencies with other phrases that contradict, conflict, with one or two phrases in the Bible. The corruptions are simply found by all the inconsistencies, found elsewhere in the Bible. And in it's previous versions, going back to the oldest versions available. It's like a big puzzle, where we have to piece it all together, as best we can.

It is a most fascinating subject, to me.

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Debunkology

Your post proves my point. You said:

If you can control time and space, then there would be no need for Adam to fall into a deep sleep. He could have had his rib removed instantly. There would also be no need to close up the flesh either.

Exactly, He did these things for our benefit. So we would recognize the procedure. God could have created Eve the same way He did Adam from the dust of the ground.

He chose to carry out a surgery on Adam because people of today would recognize the procedure.

No, my post does not prove your point at all.

Also.

"He" did this for our benefit so we would recognize the procedure?

What procedure in the medical world has someone (a man) have their rib removed, and then a whole entire woman is created out of it?

The whole point of that verse was to show that Eve was brought into the world as a companion to Adam and like Adam was made in gods image. The guy who wrote that verse just did a terrible job when he was imagining it.

The actual verse is absurd. Scientifcally speaking, it's also not a good idea for the human race genetically speaking to be descended from what is ultimately one person and his clone.

The bible is as much a fairytale as aliens are. The rapture will be world war 3 or an asteroid.

originally posted by: Stu112
The bible is as much a fairytale as aliens are. The rapture will be world war 3 or an asteroid.

I was thinking that it might be when we finally figure out how to place human consciousness into a machine.

Looking forward too it just like everyone else, sooner the better, the anticipation is even more crueler then being vaporized by a bright light.

It like waiting for Christmas to come.

originally posted by: neoholographic
I believe the Rapture will be mistaken as an Alien Invasion. We will look up and the sky will be covered with what the Bible calls clouds. These clouds hover, people enter the cloud, a voice comes out of the cloud and more. These clouds are what we call U.F.O.'s.

This is how the name of blasphemy and the mark of the beast will be eagerly accepted. This is what will happen:

1. Clouds(U.F.O's) will cover the sky.

2. People will be shocked and scared.

3. Many people will be taken. This will be seen as an alien abduction.

4. People will not think it's the Rapture because many popular Christians will still be here on earth.

5. A Religious leader(false prophet) will introduce the name of blasphemy. He will say this mark will protect you in case the aliens come back.

6. Remember this when it happens. Don't be fooled because many Christians you see on TV aren't taken. Give your life to Christ and spread the word to as many people as you can because the tribulation period has started.

Here's some verses in the Bible that show clouds, chariots of fire, Ezekiel's wheel and more were Ancients trying to describe modern technology in the language of the day.

Exodus 24:18 - And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

The cloud carried Moses into the mountains.

Exodus 13:21 - And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:

Exodus 40:34 and 35 - Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. 35. And Moses was not able to enter into the tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode thereon, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle.

When the cloud was hovering over the tabernacle, the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle and Moses couldn't enter. Could this be the power source of the craft which would kill or injure Moses or anyone if they entered while the cloud was hovering?

I can go on and on with examples. In the new Testament the Disciples were even missing time as they "ENTERED" the cloud.

Luke 9

34. While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

35. And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

36. And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

They entered the cloud but soon as the voice finished speaking, it was just them and Jesus. Give your life to Christ today!

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with CLOUDS; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

I just saw this and it's a very interesting read. I never thought about this but it makes sense. I'm going to have to dig into these scriptures.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ketsuko
I've heard that theory.

I've also heard that when the aliens come, they will actually be demons masquerading as benevolent aliens.

Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke.

Great book!

Great author!

I love all the "Rama" books and also "The Light of Other Days" that he did with Stephen Baxter.