CDC Allows Doctors-Coroners to Assume the Deceased had Covid-19...No Testing Required.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: 2020blows

Why didnt they do any of this with Sars or MERS or swine flu or H1N1.

SARS didn't make it to the US. MERS didn't either (except for 2 cases).

Swine flu (which is H1N1) is an influeza virus. We have influenza vaccines.

Swine flu was a brand new Novel virus . And had 60 million cases in the US. Imagine if they counted that the same as they counted this .

Did everyone that died with swine flu get counted as a swine flu death?

a reply to: Phage

Thanks Phage. For what reason though. To supplement the losses from prohibiting elective procedures?

a reply to: TXRabbit



Probably, and to help cover additional costs of isolation as well. Not a good time for hospitals to go broke.

Ask your Senator.

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: carewemust

Maybe you forgot about Rod Rosensteins sister?

"Nancy Messonnier (née Rosenstein; born November 1965) is an American physician who serves as the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She is working on the CDC response to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States."

I remember Nancy Messonnier coming to a microphone and making a statement that every one of the Mainstream Media outlets used to press the MASS PANIC button for the USA. She triggered the panic and was never heard from again.

Here she is from February 25th. Messonnier tells the country to get ready for a massive spread of Covid-19.

Link: www.cnn.com...

a reply to: 2020blows

Swine flu was a brand new Novel virus .

It was an influenza variant. We have/had flu vaccines. That's why a vaccine for H1N1 was able to be produced without going through the full clinical trials procedures.

We didn't/don't have a coronavirus vaccine.

And had 60 million cases in the US.

Over the course of a year, we still have time. But the mitigation measures seem to help.

Did everyone that died with swine flu get counted as a swine flu death?

I don't know.

originally posted by: TXRabbit
Serious question - why would the federal gov offer so much money for each Covid-related hospitalization and/or death? Why is it incentivized so?

It's called the "Provider Relief Fund". Here's how Health and Human Services (HHS) describes it:

Provider Relief Fund: Key Facts for Providers

Qualified health care service and support providers now have access to relief funds for appropriate expenses, lost revenue due to COVID-19, or to help uninsured Americans get testing and treatment for COVID-19.

Through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act and the Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care Enhancement Act (PPPCHE), the federal government has allocated $175 billion in payments to be distributed through the Provider Relief Fund (PRF).

These payments do not need to be repaid to the US government, assuming providers comply with the terms and conditions.

Note: Applications are currently open for Phase 2 General Distribution funding for Medicaid, Medicaid managed care, Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), dental providers, and certain Medicare providers.

All groups will have until Friday, August 28, 2020 to apply.

More at: www.hhs.gov...

a reply to: carewemust

It's called the "Provider Relief Fund". Here's how Health and Human Services (HHS) describes it:

No. He was talking about the per patient Medicare "bonus" for COVID patients on Medicare.

The PRF is non-specific to a COVID diagnosis. It is, as the text you quoted says, similar to the PPP program.

a reply to: Phage

I don't know.

LOL yes you do. the answer is no. And the next question is why not? And how many wine flu deaths would there have been had they counted it the same way. A s### ton more than the covid right?

a reply to: 2020blows

Because Trump wasn't President

a reply to: 2020blows

the answer is no.

Prove it?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: 2020blows

the answer is no.

Prove it?

The proof is the question not even being asked by anyone in the media.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Breakthestreak

The wuflu is most definitely NOT a ‘pandemic’

Actually, it is.

A pandemic (from Greek πᾶν, pan, "all" and δῆμος, demos, "people") is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people.

en.wikipedia.org...

No

It isn’t

Fake numbers, over inflated numbers, false recording on death certificates etc etc

The wuflu is most definitely not a pandemic

It’s innocuous. Catch it and you’ll be just fine.

Or, shut down the world. Because it’s oh-so-dangerous

I’m interested in seeing the total deaths from everything in 2020 and would like to compare them to pre-covid years.

a reply to: 2020blows
According to this form, the very first question, after identification data is:

At the time of this report, is the case:
 ( ) Probable ( ) Confirmed

Similar to the claim brought up again, 3 months later, by the OP.

And, of course, the CDC is quite open about how they just estimate numbers without really knowing the exact numbers.
The burden of the influenza A H1N1pdm09 virus since the 2009 pandemic

The cumulative burden of burden of influenza A H1N1pdm09 virus from 2009 – 2018 is an estimate of the number of people who have been sick, seen a healthcare provider, been hospitalized, or died as a result of influenza A H1N1pdm09 since it first began spreading in humans in 2009. CDC does not know the exact number of people who have been sick and affected by influenza because influenza is not a reportable disease in most areas of the United States. Therefore, these numbers are estimated using a mathematical model, based on observed rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations.

That's why in Japan we haven't very low death rate because they're not paying the doctors or the hospitals money to falsify the the death certificates

the good news is, none of this can hide from the truth. At the end of the year, we can look back on previous years and see total numbers of deaths. If the total fits in line with previous years, then we have some problems to discuss. If the numbers are severely inflated, then this disease is a horrible thing and we are all going to die.

But looking at things like flu deaths, heart disease, car crashes, all those things should tell the truth. And with facts, even those who feel so superior to all will have to yield to the truth. Being honest and fair, they will likely run away instead of admit to being wrong, should that be the case. If the numbers are super inflated, and covid is indeed the killer of all, then we can all cower in fear of the silent killer who has not antidote, and likely won't, as there has been no cure for the flu or the common cold, and we have had those around for ever.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: 2020blows

Why didnt they do any of this with Sars or MERS or swine flu or H1N1.

SARS didn't make it to the US. MERS didn't either (except for 2 cases).

Swine flu (which is H1N1) is an influeza virus. We have influenza vaccines.

There is so much wrong with this statement.
Vivid is a Corona virus. There is no virus called influenza. It's like saying a cough is an illness.
Yes we have flu jabs but they are only good for a very short time due to mutations. Corona virus can cause influenza or a cold. Most people on the globe have had a Corona based illness and hence antibodies. This was the reason these covid tests (which don't exist) show positive for so many people.
My guess is that most people are already armed against covid because of this.