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Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.” The constraints on discussing classified programs — and the ambiguity of information cited in unclassified slides from the briefings — have put officials who have studied U.F.O.s in the position of stating their views without presenting any hard evidence. Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”
Mr. Elizondo is among a small group of former government officials and scientists with security clearances who, without presenting physical proof, say they are convinced that objects of undetermined origin have crashed on earth with materials retrieved for study.
say they are convinced that objects of undetermined origin have crashed on earth with materials retrieved for study
“We couldn’t make it ourselves.”
While retired officials involved with the effort — including Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader — hope the program will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds
I did not know this.
Public fascination with the topic of U.F.O.s has drawn in President Trump, who told his son Donald Trump Jr. in a June interview that he knew “very interesting” things about Roswell — a city in New Mexico that is central to speculation about the existence of U.F.O.s. The president demurred when asked if he would declassify any information on Roswell. “I’ll have to think about that one,” he said.
originally posted by: IMSAM
Talk about a nothing burger if this was the article that was touted all month long in other platforms(reddit-twitter etc) from ufologys youngest and finest
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Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.” The constraints on discussing classified programs — and the ambiguity of information cited in unclassified slides from the briefings — have put officials who have studied U.F.O.s in the position of stating their views without presenting any hard evidence. Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from "off-world vehicles not made on this earth"
The way it's worded, for all we know the briefing said: "If an extraterrestrial vehicle ever crashes, let's analyze it". So unless there's more information about the details of the briefing, you seem to be jumping to conclusions that are not stated.
originally posted by: Heisenburg
Yes you read that correctly. A DOD agency along with the senate armed services committee were given classified briefings about "RETRIEVALS FROM OFF-WORLD VEHICLES NOT MADE ON THIS EARTH". Confirmed by Eric Davis, the man himself who conducted those briefings. This is not some anonymous source BS. This is the real deal.
According to the Pulse Journal, "The chapter directs firefighters to approach real or perceived UFOs the same way as if they were approaching a hazardous materials call...
"One of my favorite sayings is that when people don't know who to call they call they fire department," Piringer said. "Even if a Martian ship or UFO landed in the backyard they'd call the fire department, and we'd come and figure something out."
As it turns out, that too may be no more alien than the flowery designs used on the tape to assemble a radar reflector that Marcel recovered. We've got plenty of people running around thinking things are alien that turn out to not be alien, and no, Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff are not exactly shining stars of credibility. Puthoff's career was largely devoted to pseudoscientific research, and if you ask 100 physicists about the credibility of Eric Davis's traversable wormhole paper, I expect somewhere between 99 to 100 will tell you it's not credible. That is a good thing, because Tom DeLonge talked about technology that could deliver a nuclear weapon to the white house from anywhere on Earth in 2 seconds, which had to be the tech in the wormhole paper by Davis, which fortunately is not feasible so the white house doesn't need to fear the wormholes speculated by Davis.
at last week’s conference in Las Vegas, Dr. Hal Puthoff gave a lecture on his work for To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and the Pentagon’s UFO program. Like the secret showman that he has long been, he hinted at things he refused to say and used blanket claims about government classification to avoid dealing with provable details to support his implications and allegations. However, he accidentally led me to the solution to the mystery of To the Stars’ secret “alien” metal alloy that they have been promoting since last year.
You know how I hate to leave a mystery unsolved, and the “alien” alloy really bothered me.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
The way it's worded, for all we know the briefing said: "If an extraterrestrial vehicle ever crashes, let's analyze it". So unless there's more information about the details of the briefing, you seem to be jumping to conclusions that are not stated.
originally posted by: Heisenburg
Yes you read that correctly. A DOD agency along with the senate armed services committee were given classified briefings about "RETRIEVALS FROM OFF-WORLD VEHICLES NOT MADE ON THIS EARTH". Confirmed by Eric Davis, the man himself who conducted those briefings. This is not some anonymous source BS. This is the real deal.
Firefighters have a chapter in their firefighting book for what to do when an alien space ship lands or crashes, you think the defense sector wouldn't have thought of what firefighters thought of, having a procedure for what to do with non-terrestrial wreckage?
Author Explains Fire Service Guide To UFO Response
According to the Pulse Journal, "The chapter directs firefighters to approach real or perceived UFOs the same way as if they were approaching a hazardous materials call...
"One of my favorite sayings is that when people don't know who to call they call they fire department," Piringer said. "Even if a Martian ship or UFO landed in the backyard they'd call the fire department, and we'd come and figure something out."
But just because the firefighters can read a chapter about what to do with a Martian space ship, doesn't mean they've got any Martian space ships.
Jesse Marcel thought the radar reflector debris he recovered near Roswell in 1947 was alien because it had what looked to him like alien writing on it, so we've had military personnel think they retrieved alien debris, but that doesn't make it so. What he saw wasn't even "writing", the radar reflectors were made by a toy company who had some tape on hand with printed designs which faded, and that's what he was looking at.
A more recent example of likely misidentified "alien" material was discussed by the former boss of Eric Davis, Hal Puthoff:
A Potential Solution to the Mystery of the "Alien" Metal Promoted by "To the Stars"
As it turns out, that too may be no more alien than the flowery designs used on the tape to assemble a radar reflector that Marcel recovered. We've got plenty of people running around thinking things are alien that turn out to not be alien, and no, Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff are not exactly shining stars of credibility. Puthoff's career was largely devoted to pseudoscientific research, and if you ask 100 physicists about the credibility of Eric Davis's traversable wormhole paper, I expect somewhere between 99 to 100 will tell you it's not credible. That is a good thing, because Tom DeLonge talked about technology that could deliver a nuclear weapon to the white house from anywhere on Earth in 2 seconds, which had to be the tech in the wormhole paper by Davis, which fortunately is not feasible so the white house doesn't need to fear the wormholes speculated by Davis.
at last week’s conference in Las Vegas, Dr. Hal Puthoff gave a lecture on his work for To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and the Pentagon’s UFO program. Like the secret showman that he has long been, he hinted at things he refused to say and used blanket claims about government classification to avoid dealing with provable details to support his implications and allegations. However, he accidentally led me to the solution to the mystery of To the Stars’ secret “alien” metal alloy that they have been promoting since last year.
You know how I hate to leave a mystery unsolved, and the “alien” alloy really bothered me.