Boris has me confused

originally posted by: DiddyC
a reply to: Mysterychic88

What about the part of only quarantining people who come from abroad, when it gets better.... Eh? 🤨

I'd like to know how on earth they are going to manage to police that?

Will it be down to trust?......we all know how well that works.

I think the steps the government have taken make sense. Sadly a lot of people didn't listen before about social distancing and won't listen this time either.
I lost my job just before the outbreak, I need to work, so this virus has to be dealt with. I and many others can't cary on. We have bills to pay.
I just hope people get the message and do what's needed to push things forward.

originally posted by: Mysterychic88
Hi to all here. I watched Boris Johnsons address to the country on the news earlier and I have been left scratching my head as to what exactly he meant.

It seems to me that if you want to be confused, then you will be! It's straight forward and not that difficult to comprehend, and part of the process towards relaxing the lockdown measures.

People seem to want a long list of detailed things they can do, or not, and in what way. Using common sense seems to have been thrown out of the window!

Perhaps listen to the actual speech to get the context and keep an eye on how it starts to pan out, and is interpreted by the less confused.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: DiddyC
a reply to: Mysterychic88

What about the part of only quarantining people who come from abroad, when it gets better.... Eh? 🤨

I'd like to know how on earth they are going to manage to police that?

Will it be down to trust?......we all know how well that works.

Luckily there's a segment of the population on the police/governments side so I'm sure they will do their due diligence and grass on their compatriots...fun times.

We need his great grandma Borisha Poppins to come and help him out.

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I thought it was reasonably clear,

Same restrictions as it has been the last X amount of weeks, except now:
1. Factory warehouses and shops can re-open if currently closed and people can get back to work if thier employers have distancing measures in place.
2. You can go out for exercise as much as you want (with members of your household)
3. Sunbathing in park is ok if distancing measures are followed.


See how it goes over next few weeks and lift restrictions when they feel we are ready.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Mysterychic88
Hi to all here. I watched Boris Johnsons address to the country on the news earlier and I have been left scratching my head as to what exactly he meant.

It seems to me that if you want to be confused, then you will be! It's straight forward and not that difficult to comprehend, and part of the process towards relaxing the lockdown measures.

People seem to want a long list of detailed things they can do, or not, and in what way. Using common sense seems to have been thrown out of the window!

Perhaps listen to the actual speech to get the context and keep an eye on how it starts to pan out, and is interpreted by the less confused.

This seems to be the real problem. It's simply not possible or desirable for the government to give rules for every possible scenario or activity.

I think most people understand what sensible precautions are needed however there is vocal minorities on either side who just don't seen to get it.

Factory and construction go back to work.

Shops not yet..... maybe June.....if supported by science.

No meeting up with anyone who does not live in your house.

Unlimited time outside.

You can now drive to a beach or park as long as you social distance.

Boris Johnson speech: PM unveils 'conditional plan' to reopen society - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk...=https://www.google.com


It does say that a government official told BBC that the new guidelines will say you can meet one person that does not live in your house as long as you stay 2 meters apart....... but that may be announced today (Monday).

So far this weekend my next door neighbours have had 3 visits from one of their mums and 1 visit from a couple of workmates of the bloke, They have a 1 month old baby.

Really got on my wife's nerves. She was going on about calling the cops, but I talked her out of it. Not our business and none of them are ever likely to be the sort we socialise with so no chance of catching anything off them.

Just goes to show how the lockdown is not really enforceable I suppose.

yup - borris`s gibberish has confused people

but just stop and think - does its own rantings even make sense to borris ?

i suspect not - YMMV

For real. Just watch good morning britain or listen to the jeremy vine show to get a jist of the morons out there.


a reply to: paraphi

a reply to: Mysterychic88

If you're confused about going back to work have you thought of ringing your boss to see what arrangements are in place to return?

Or you can wait for Boris to do it for you.

Just a thought.

a reply to: Mysterychic88

He basically said it's ok to go back to work. He said government encourages it.

He said this 12 hours before most people's working day would start. Workers are entitled to decent forewarning in regards to work, he cut the string a bit short me thinks.

Also workers are entitled to refuse to work if their safety is at risk. Employers must ensure worker safety by law, they must provide PPE by law. This isn't exactly possible under the circumstances.

I personally see massive compensation claims, unfair dismissal claims and all manner of claims against employers coming forth over the next few weeks.

For what you may ask? Well it seems to me government doesn't want to foot the bill for the disaster it's helped create.

Boris is an idiot. Oh and try not to use public transport 😂

They'll come out with more precise information this morning, for instance we can now meet 1 person outside of your household as long as social distancing is observed. Bumbling idiots....

So yeah. Go to work, don't socialise. Use public transport but only if it's necessary.

a reply to: Mysterychic88
My elderly Father rang me after BoJo stopped speaking and asked what the hell had that been about, because he was confused about what is now allowed. I replied that I had no clue at all either.
Matt Lucas has it pretty much spot on here - www.youtube.com...

a reply to: SprocketUK

People are selfish and can't be trusted.

Boris just kicked the can at employers when our NHS and care workers can't get PPE they need nor enough tests to actually ensure any safety.

I feel for your wife's frustration and if the country wasn't going back to work I'd agree with you but now I can't. People will mingle and work places will struggle with social distancing and providing worker safety.

In 3 weeks I see a very strong possibility of a massive uptake in cases.

I also see massive workers rights issues coming. We might even see mass walkouts and unions demanding safety for their workers.

There's going to be a lot more to this too, I imagine workers hours will be cut left right and center. What that means if economic activity is ordered to stop again is anyone's guess.

I'm not optimistic, I know 80% wages have been tight for a lot of workers... What's going to happen when people are on 24 hrs a week then we have to shut down?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Wait, so if you can go outside you should go outside, but if you don't need to go outside you shouldn't go outside, unless you need to go outside, then you should....go outside.

Jeez that's not hard just don't go outside at all unless you need too...

a reply to: RAY1990

Some good points you raised there.

I am lucky because my department is already understaffed and they're happy with us working from home.
Not the case for most people though.

One thing I am pretty sure about and that is this will not lead to a massive reset that addresses the inequality in society.

It should do, but those with the fattest wallets always have the loudest voices.

As for my neighbours, I think they are daft, but what can you do?

I am just concentrating on staying safe, trying to teach my mum to use WhatsApp and getting my work done on time.

Also I don't like making threads personally but nobody on ATS has mentioned the company tasked with handling our Covid testing in the UK.

It's the same company that was assisting Carillion when it was found to be defrauding the UK government. They were behind Jarvis I recall? Technically responsible for that derailment at a train station?

Well they're screwing the tests up too. Screw the Tories it's always about cash for the boys.

Well, this quite a good overview to de-confuse the confused.

As I look around the landscape of our political world there are people absolutely everywhere losing their minds, demanding specific instructions on everyday decisions that they used to make all by themselves just two months ago.

Ta lk Radio

Maybe you should all start thinking for yourselves and stop looking for corrupt politicians to hold your hands.

I don’t need Boris Johnson or anyone to tell me how I should live my life or protect my children.

If you’re afraid for your health stay at home and isolate, advise your vulnerable family members to do the same and help provide any assistance they may require.

The rest of you get back to living your lives and stop being scared little shills of big government.

Someone actually just said their wife was contemplating calling the police because their neighbours had visitors.

Joseph Goebbels would be proud of this propaganda machine and the Gestapo could only dream of such success in domestic spying.

What a joke.