Corona Virus Updates Part 3

Just saw where Hosni Mubarak (former President of Egypt) has died. A Google search for hosni mubarak death shows official cause of death is listed as "disease"

According to the article I read..."He was buried without a funeral late at night with only close family members in attendance."

Going to read more articles about it and see if there is any more about what did happen. Sorry if this has already been posted about...just now able to catch up with the new posts since last night and didn't see any about it.

Article


*forgot to mention: he was 91.

With regard to Tenerife the wife of the doctor has now tested positive.

www.telecinco.es...

Interesting titbit from the article saying that the Italian authorities are not happy about the local authorities management and govt may assume control. Not to worry everyone. Your govt has it under control



Coronavirus health alert: the virus spreads across Europe

The case of coronavirus in Catalonia and that of the doctor's wife raise the cases to 5

The Government of Italy accuses the expansion of hospital mismanagement that did not follow the protocols

Giuseppe Conte says that if the regions cannot coordinate to fight the virus, the government will assume health control

Reports of people just dropping dead in the street points to something more deadly than ConV or a Flu.

Except there is no way of knowing where or when those were taken, and no proof of any kind it was related to this virus. So, that's a lot of guessing and assumption. There is also no proof it is killing "hundreds of thousands." I imagine the death toll is higher than they are making it, but I think based on the #s outside of China, this is still fairly stable at 1.5 to 3.1% or so, for a fatality rate. Which is still much worse than the flu (and it's more contagious), but no need to make it seem multitudes worse than it actually is.

Turkish evacuation flight from Iran lands in Ankara -

They're still sticking with the mandatory 14 day quarantine - that has been shown to not always be adequate

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Can you read? I said nothing about testing anyone, let alone the whole world en masse.

I can read. Ok, how are you going to find out how many people have the virus if you're not going to test them? Psychic granny test? We still don't really know how many people died in the Spanish Flu outbreak, and we'll never know with this either. There is no way of getting the numbers you want, trustworthy numbers, without doing an impossible thing, so you're not getting those numbers, and that's not what the official numbers are. That's been gone over and gone over since the first thread.

I'm afraid you're looking after this backwards. Counting and blaming come later. We don't know the real numbers. We don't know what the next refresh of our browser will bring. Those official numbers are just indicative of which mathematical model they're following, nothing else. No country will want to be upfront about the true state inside their borders for fear of the same economic and social impact it's having everywhere that has announced an outbreak. Those dark countries with no red dots are not indicative of countries without the virus, it's countries without testing and without transparency.

US senators had a classified briefing on coronavirus this morning.

As they left, Sens. Dick Durbin, Richard Blumenthal and Lamar Alexander all said that one aspect of the novel coronavirus that concerns them is its spread across countries around the world.

A key question, Democrat Whip Durbin said, is “whether or not [countries] will be aggressive in quarantine in cases and reduce the spread beyond their borders. We still have to wait to see.”

GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy said that at the end of today's briefing, the officials present actually said “it didn’t need to be” classified. Sen. Roy Blunt, a Republican, echoed that and said the senators didn’t hear anything “top secret.”

Durbin also said he believes the Trump administration’s request for about $2 billion in additional funds to deal with coronavirus is a “wise allocation” but added that it “may not even be enough” — repeating a warning that other Democrats have also made.

Durbin then slammed the Trump administration's budget request that cuts funds for health agencies like CDC and NIH as “completely backwards.” He said he hopes the president reconsiders as “we’ve got to anticipate that more resources will be needed.”

GOP Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana said “panicking about this does not make sense,” when asked if Americans should be panicked about the coronavirus, pointing to the fact there’s only been 14 cases so far in the US — not including those from the cruise ship.

Administration officials told senators that a vaccine was at least 12 to 18 months away, according to three senators present at today's closed briefing on coronavirus.

When asked if we are close to a vaccine, Sen. Roy Blunt said: “We will not have a vaccine in the next 12 or 18 months.”

Sen. Joe Manchin said he asked National Institutes of Health’s Tony Fauci whether they were close to a vaccine and Faucci said “no,” according to Manchin. “I guess Tony should know... It’s very contagious.”

Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chair Lamar Alexander said: “The vaccine for the coronavirus is moving more rapidly than any vaccine we have already tried to approve — but it will take a year or 18 months. The way to stop (an outbreak) is quarantine and monitoring.”
"“I believe it’s under control," he added. "Do I think it will spread in the United States? The advice we got today is inevitably it will spread.”"

There were 40 senators present for the all-senators briefing, according to Alexander.

Senators also said there was concern that there have not been enough masks produced in the US to help prevent the spread of the virus.

Meanwhile: Trump continues to publicly express confidence in his administration's handling of the crisis and optimism that it will be short-lived.

“I think that whole situation will start working out. A lot of talent, a lot of brain power is being put behind it,” he said on Tuesday during a news conference in New Delhi, India.

cnn

a reply to: ragiusnotiel

GOP Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana said “panicking about this does not make sense,”

Senator Braun, if you want people to panic, just tell them not to panic.

If they start telling us to remain calm, then you know the crap is getting bad.

a reply to: GlobalGold

There has been a lot of evidence to say that the incubation period is more likely up to 28 days. 14 day quarantine is to short.

on a side note, this Dr has been posting videos on the outbreak. Makes for interesting viewing.



hope the video works, not sure if I'm embedding it properly.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: ragiusnotiel

GOP Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana said “panicking about this does not make sense,”

Senator Braun, if you want people to panic, just tell them not to panic.

"“I believe it’s under control," he added. "Do I think it will spread in the United States? The advice we got today is inevitably it will spread.”"

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
Because its more potent than flu!!

Maybe... maybe not. We (you and I) simply don't know yet.

The question is, what is it? If it is killing hundreds of thousands and continues to do so then its a bio-weapon.

Ummm... no. Killing a lot of people doesn't automatically mean it is a bio-weapon - but yes, of course, it could be.

Reports of people just dropping dead in the street points to something more deadly than ConV or a Flu.

And again, these reports are, if nothing else, unsubstantiated rumors. We simply do n ot know. If they are from CV, they could be heart attacks due to cytokine storm - but we do not know.

And the killing of many children if that is the case.

There have been ZERO reports of children deaths from this, in fact the opposite (reports that children don't seem to be affected badly).

Incinerators, drastic measures?

Rumors, rumors, and more rumors.

I'll stick to reality and reasonable speculations, thanks.

The Wife of the Italian tourist here in the Canary Islands has tested positive too (I mean, it's to be expected). Apparently the doctors at the emergency room didn't take the proper measures when the guy said "I'm from Italy and I think I may have coronavirus", they only took him seriously once the tests came back, and the health workers are terrified.

They're also tracking people the hotel workers were in contact it outside the place to keep track of everybody adjacent to this matter.

Oh, and the Italian #er didn't even cover his mouth, he feared he had coronavirus yet the idiot went into the emergency room with no consideration for the locals' health.
Which, I mean, is a common thing for us, not gonna lie.

Will wait and see if there is anybody else infected at the hotel once the results are out.

And this now: The head of Iran's CV Task Force now has contracted the cv.

www.foxnews.com...

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originally posted by: TheIrvy2
I can read.

Your response says otherwise.

Ok, how are you going to find out how many people have the virus if you're not going to test them?

Again - read my response if you want to discuss what I said.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: TheIrvy2
I can read.

Your response says otherwise.

Ok, how are you going to find out how many people have the virus if you're not going to test them?

Again - read my response if you want to discuss what I said.

Final warning. Do not disparage my intelligence again. Mods, please register another complaint against this poster, I won't be interacting with them again. A block user feature would be useful.

Markets are now in a steady downturn yet again ... almost at -400 points.

BNO just said the CDC will do an update at 11.30 ET which I think is 10 minutes?? It's 4.20 afternoon in UK right now

I use my phone so can't post link. I haven't seen this posted and don't know how reliable the source. GNews reports that flu cases in China increased over one million cases in December 2019 compared to December 2018.

Cdc briefing at 11:30 am

originally posted by: TheIrvy2
Final warning. Do not disparage my intelligence again. Mods, please register another complaint against this poster, I won't be interacting with them again. A block user feature would be useful.

That is funny, since I didn't disparage anything, and you are not responding to what I said.