Coronavirus: Did a Chinese Scientist Steal the Virus from a Canadian National Microbiology Lab?

originally posted by: DJMSN

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: one4all

I would be sure that the supermarket tabloids would pay for this story.

I am sure they would pay for it as well, and it’s where the story belongs in the supermarket tabloids right next to a story about Batboy.

There are way too friggin' many cooccurrences in this thread.

Is it possible that a government would be clandestinely developing biological weapons grade materials? No way! We all know those kinds of things do not happen! Governments are much too ethically conscious and socially responsible to do that kind of thing!

It is possible that educated scientists working in the field of virology and immunology would traffic and participate in clandestine research toward the end of developing virulent viral pathogens that could be used to harm people? Of course not! Professional scientists are much to ethically centered to get involved in that kind of thing, even if someone offered them massive amounts of money or threatened them or their families.

Is it possible that high level containment labs with multiple security protocols in place could let something like this slip out? Of course not! Thankfully, the people who run these labs and put the security protocols in place are brilliant and have it all under control, and the people who work in these facilities are all intelligent, well trained and ethically centered professionals.

So, let's just put these crazy conspiracy theories to rest! The world is a wonderful, safe place full of nice people.

Oh, look, I see a unicorn sliding down a rainbow!
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a reply to: incoserv


All that was presented is factual, live and real. I do not work for China or their interests.

CBC Canada

Still no answers in probe of government scientists expelled from National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg Karen Pauls · CBC News · Posted: Oct 03, 2019 2:57 PM CT | Last Updated: October 3, 2019

So where is Dr. Xiangguo Qiu? I cant find her anywhere. She was one of the expelled scientists at the same lab that obtained Coronavirus in 2013.

Seems like everything has a price these days- even humanity.

I would not be surprised to learn all roads end at the Gates Foundation. The ultra wealthy seem to think they have the right to go above and beyond all governments to implements plans THEY deem best for the entire world, and their vast wealth pretty much renders them untouchable.

a reply to: Waterglass

Plus methane from the bean dip .

I’ll send a $20 check to Gore then cancel it .👹

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I am not going to touch that link you embedded. Are you also aware that Xi Jinping hasent been seen in public for 6 days?

I know right, I mean who would? This account is only 13 years old with a very reputable rating

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Waterglass

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I get asked to sign in after clicking your link.

There was a link posted here somewhere that went straight to the page but I can't seem to find it now.

Can anyone re-post that link?

Let me see if I can fix the link.


This is a handy interactive map

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Waterglass

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I get asked to sign in after clicking your link.

There was a link posted here somewhere that went straight to the page but I can't seem to find it now.

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Let me see if I can fix the link.


This is a handy interactive map

Perfect!

Thank you!

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Waterglass

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I get asked to sign in after clicking your link.

There was a link posted here somewhere that went straight to the page but I can't seem to find it now.

Can anyone re-post that link?

Let me see if I can fix the link.


This is a handy interactive map

Wow - number of cases is exploding.

And the number of US cases is up to 12.

Better buckle up folks. I knew this was going to get a lot worse before it got better.

And once a critical mass of infected is reached, it will be *everywhere*.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Thanks for the fix. When I went there it was a Johns Hopkins web page and it wanted me to sign in.

a reply to: Fallingdown

Ha, I hope you don't get the cha chas in explosive dye a ree ya.

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Waterglass

gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com...#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

I get asked to sign in after clicking your link.

There was a link posted here somewhere that went straight to the page but I can't seem to find it now.

Can anyone re-post that link?

Let me see if I can fix the link.


This is a handy interactive map

Wow - number of cases is exploding.

And the number of US cases is up to 12.

Better buckle up folks. I knew this was going to get a lot worse before it got better.

And once a critical mass of infected is reached, it will be *everywhere*.

Right. I look at it like this. China has to contain this disease 99 percent in their quarenteen zones. If they dont then they wont be able to stop it from spreading throughout their entire country. That's an almost impossible feat. So therefore it's only a matter of time until Pandora's box is opened.

Then, once it infects the entire nation of China, we as in the rest of the world has to keep the entire country of China...1.4 BILLION PEOPLE under quarantine indefinitely....yeah effing right like that's gonna happen!

This virus WILL make it's way around the world.
Our only hope is to hope we find a cure in time. But by the looks of it, this disease is a bioengineered weapon of mass destruction that has either been accidentally or purposefully released (either way the cat is out of the bag) so a vaccine isn't happening any time soon.

Now is the time start stockpiling canned goods and water. By the time everyone else starts to think about stockpiling it's already too late. Just pray that you live long enough to be able to eat your canned goods.

The media tries to downplay this as if it is just another SARS disease but ask yourself this, why is there more people in quarantine than there ever has been in the entire history of the world? Take account the entire population of the United state's top 50 most populated cities and it still wont add up to how many people are currently under quarantine in China.

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Thanks for the fix. When I went there it was a Johns Hopkins web page and it wanted me to sign in.

Yeah I seen that after I read your post. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Here's what I did find as a connection with Johns Hopkins; Dr. W. Seth Caru

reas of Expertise: Countering WMD; Biological & Chemical Defense Dr. W. Seth Carus is Emeritus Distinguished Professor of National Security Policy at the Center for the Study of Weapons of Mass Destruction at the National Defense University. He was on NDU’s faculty from 1997 through 2017, serving from 2003 to 2013 as the Center's Deputy Director. From 2001 to 2003, Dr. Carus was detailed to the Office of the Vice President at the White House, where he was the Senior Advisor to the Vice President for Biodefense. Before joining NDU, Dr. Carus worked at the Center for Naval Analyses (1994 to 1997), the Policy Planning staff in the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, Office of the Secretary of Defense (1991 to 1994), and the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Dr. Carus’ work has focused primarily on issues related to biological and chemical warfare. His current research focuses on the history of chemical and biological warfare. He is author of A Short History of Biological Warfare: From Pre-History to the 21st Century (2017), “The History of Biological Warfare: What We Know and What We Don’t” in Health Security (2015), and Defining “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, Revised and Updated (2012), as well as the working paper Bioterrorism and Biocrimes: The Illicit Use of Biological Agents Since 1900 (2001). He is the co-author of The Future of Weapons of Mass Destruction: Their Nature and Role in 2030 (2014). Dr. Carus has a Ph.D. in International Relations from Johns Hopkins University.

a reply to: incoserv

Why don't you tell all of us where Dr. Qiu Xiangguo and her husband are. Since there removal nothing on them throughout the world. Why? Do they work for the New World Order?

They have disappeared off the face of the earth:

South China Morning Post

Chinese-educated microbiology researcher Qiu – along with her husband and fellow researcher, Cheng Keding, and an unknown number of Chinese research students – were removed on July 5 from Canada’s only level-4 virology facility at the National Microbiology Lab.

a reply to: Waterglass

Just passed the jalapeños where the Hell is the ice cream ? 😆

a reply to: Alien Abduct

But by the looks of it, this disease is a bioengineered weapon of mass destruction that has either been accidentally or purposefully released (either way the cat is out of the bag) so a vaccine isn't happening any time soon.

If this bioengineered weapon of mass destruction was purposefully released then it is a good bet a vaccination or antidote does exist, but only available for a few select people. In such a situation it is standard operating procedure to eliminate any potential leaks by destroying the development chain. How Hillary used bleach bit when asked for her emails is one example of this.

I guess the primary suspects for the purposefully released theory would fit some where in the globalist camp with the resources and technology required to pull this off. With Trump saying at the UN "The days are the globalists are over, it is time for the patriots" got them kinda offended and this is a lash back. With the quarantine procedures getting set up all over the globe, a more nationalist policy is in effect.

If Dr. Xiangguo Qiu did play a part in the development of this virus, then its a possibility he may already of passed away. I don't know, but if I was running this operation I would be making an effort to cover my tracks.

If he is still alive then laying low and hiding out is also another possibility trying to avoid the heat going around. Trying to avoid any contact does indicate some culpability with the emergency going on. Perhaps he is a good guy and there are things going on outside of his control? If he is in China the censorship wall can be a tough one to get through.

At this time this is just rumor, but have seen on another message board that there is some Ebola RNA in the Wuflu. In time the genetic analysis will sort this one out. For now the implications for someone like Dr. Xiangguo Qiu is important as a specialist in Ebola.

On Dr Frank Plummer's death

Dr. Plummer, one of Canada’s leading scientists, died Feb. 4 in Nairobi, where he attended an annual meeting of an international HIV research collaborative he helped found. He was 67. Colleagues said he was feeling unwell while at lunch with his daughters, and collapsed as he returned to his hotel. He was driven to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead upon arrival. The cause of his death was not yet known at the time of publication.

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Lab didn't tell police 22 vials stolen Former researcher in U.S. custody accused of cross-border smuggling

No one from Winnipeg's National Microbiology Laboratory bothered to report the theft of 22 vials of biological material to police, despite an international uproar over a former researcher accused of smuggling the substances across the U.S. border.

Some of the vials included genes from the deadly Ebola virus, but local scientists say the material is not infectious. Konan Michel Yao, 42, faces U.S. criminal charges for smuggling and is currently in the custody of a U.S. marshal. The latest revelation comes one day after senior lab officials admitted they had no idea that 22 vials of biological substances were missing from the high-security facility for close to four months.

Court documents allege the former researcher stole the vials on his last day of work at the virology lab in January because "he did not want to start his research over from the beginning when he entered into his next fellowship" with the National Institutes of Health at the Biodefense Research Laboratory in Maryland.

Dr. Tom Ksiazek, former chief of special pathogens with the Centres for Disease Control in the U.S., said the CDC ensures vials of non-infectious materials are accounted for, but that scientists do not keep as strict controls on them as they do for infectious agents.

Ksiazek said it appears the incident has more to do with intellectual property and ownership of research than it does with security protocols. He said researchers must fill out request forms to transport biological material with them if they are leaving one lab to take a job in another.

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a reply to: Sheye

REVISED:

At this time disregard my original reply to you as I stumbled onto this as I continue to search for the husband and wife team who were removed from a Canadian Lab that possessed Coronavirus :

Here’s a link to a Patent for a Coronavirus by THE PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE.

Justia

Coronavirus Patent number: 10130701 Abstract: The present invention provides a live, attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene encoding polyproteins comprising a mutation in one or more of non-structural protein(s) (nsp)-10, nsp-14, nsp-15 or nsp-16. The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease, such as infectious bronchitis, in a subject. Type: Grant Filed: July 23, 2015 Date of Patent: November 20, 2018 Assignee: THE PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE Inventors: Erica Bickerton, Sarah Keep, Paul Britton

Reference Material Link

To date both Scientists are missing from public view.

THE PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE?

a reply to: Waterglass

Forget as the patent was developed for Chickens or so it was written. This brings us back full center to Dr. Xiangguo Qiu and her husband whose specialty is Coronavirus.

The main culprit seems to be Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, an outstanding Chinese scientist, born in Tianjin. Heading until recently the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies section of the Special Pathogens Programme, she primarily received her medical doctor degree from Hebei Medical University in China in 1985 and came to Canada for graduate studies in 1996. Later on, she was affiliated with the Institute of Cell Biology and the Department of Pediatrics and Child Health of the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, not engaged with studying pathogens.