Corona Virus Updates

originally posted by: Itiswhatitis1979
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BBC took a news crew in. Wuhan like a ghost town...
Trolling through twitter there are claims of 10k deaths in Wuhan alone

Watching the BBC clip is interesting as it Def has a feeling like the movie Contagion.

As for reports of 10k dead I can also find people on Twitter that claim the Earth is flat.

Without any proof words are just words.

a reply to: ketsuko

That’s what is concerning, viral pneumonia is no joke and once the cascade starts, BP crashes, vessels dilate, and fluid shift begins you get the same results in pretty much random patients. Once cardiac output starts to fail, organ failure and death. Plus the pH drop and impact on signaling and organ damage from cell death.

It won’t make sense because we all signal differently in response to infection. If it’s a true pandemic type scenario it will jump from immunocompromised to the healthy pretty quick.

Hammer bits of crooked wood over the windows time, methinks.

a reply to: Kenzo

Technically it could be considered viral pneumonia resulting in whatever complications occurred, septic shock, organ failure, pulmonary edema, heart failure etc.

They could be trying to hide it’s impact or they may just have less stringent reporting protocols in their systems than western nations.

a reply to: ARM1968

This point cannot be emphasized enough for those who think this is an overreaction

They aren’t significantly impacting their economy for no reason.

Videos across WeChat and Twitter people saying it can be caught through eyes.

Not sure I believe that, but the tin foil hat brain says it would explain the reaction by CCP.

No way to verify unfortunately, bag of salt maybe.

I would not believe anything coming from Chinese govt (CCP) or official media at this point.

WeChat / Twitter rumors/videos;

CCP leadership fled to Qinghai, an island said to be continuity of govt HQ
Transmission via eyes (bag of salt)
Pets transmitting it between houses/people
Roads blocked to Shanghai, Tianjin, Beijing also quarantine rumors for same
Still seeing Shenzhen quarantine rumors

WeChat is getting locked down more I’m noticing this morning. Battery low will post more later.

a reply to: SpartanStoic

it can be transfer from droplet of liquid by any mucus zone of the body so mouth nose eyes even your anus

Wuhan mayor said 5 Million people got out?

5million exposed and free? Anyone else seeing this on Twitter.

a reply to: misfit312

Yeah 5 millions can be spreading the virus for days outside the zone now. Travel ban on China should have been put in decembre if we realy wanted this to stay in one contry, only hope this one fizzle out fast

Looks like the Hong Kong protesters getting in on the chaos torchine a quarantine centre................ www.jpost.com...

a reply to: SpartanStoic

If it spreads like a cold or flu, then yes. Your lachrymal duct (tear duct) goes straight from your eye to your nose and is mucus membrane. All cold and flu type viruses attack those membranes. Humans are already susceptible to several strains of coronavirus. That's why they call this one novel. It's just new to our immune system, but it functions like all the others and attacks those membranes.

That's why you are told not to touch contaminated surface and then rub your eyes or nose to avoid the flu or cold.

This would be exactly the same.

Third Coronavirus Infection Confirmed In California As Wuhan Mayor Expects “1000 Or So” New Cases

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All over place they are saying that carriers may not have symptoms. Means all the checks in place are doing nothing. It is probably why they are desperately quarantining. This is probably worse than Sars or ebola. Ebola thankfully only surged in countries without international economies.

There was crap on twitter about closing Shenzhen . That is huge the Seaport there is a substantial part of their economy.

The only reason who has done nothing is money and China not disclosing how bad this is.

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CNN confirming spreads before/without symptoms

originally posted by: Itiswhatitis1979
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CNN confirming spreads before/without symptoms

Each confirmed patient infects 2 to 3 people, say British scientists

THIRD US case of coronavirus is confirmed in California after Chicago and Washington while Canada confirms its first case as - and the US warns it CAN'T evacuate all Americans from coronavirus epicenter in Wuhan

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a reply to: Hellas

I am wondering if the reports of spread before or without symptoms are simply people who have really, really mild cases of it and don't know they're ill because they don't feel ill at all.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Hellas

I am wondering if the reports of spread before or without symptoms are simply people who have really, really mild cases of it and don't know they're ill because they don't feel ill at all.

It takes 14 days to show symptoms. Thats a long time

a reply to: ketsuko

This is important, so many people worry about airborne transmission when they should be more worried about membrane and fomite/object transmission.

Somebody sneezes or coughs in your face and your eyes are open, you could get the virus. The way these novel CoVs bind to cells can allow them to go deeper into lung tissue than other respiratory illnesses like bronchitis or the flu. They may be able to suppress T cell response, which limits host identification of infected tissue.

One of the leading theories of undiagnosed or misidentified laboratory acquired infections is through a non traditional route such as the eye, which drains into ducts, which drain into tubes, that drain into your stomach and boom, you’re infected. The same thing applies in society or in the wild, you touch something that an infected host touched, then rub your eye or face and you get the disease.

We use hand sanitizer with our students, it’s an inspectable item in the cargo pocket. It works wonders reducing transmission of respiratory and fecal-oral diseases. Much better than a procedure mask like everyone seems to be wearing.

“It took SARS three months to mutate into a form that spread easily between humans, but the related Wuhan coronavirus took only one month, George Fu, a top Chinese epidemiologist told reporters.”