Pence announces Turkish ceasefire in northern Syria

Turkey has agreed to a ceasefire in Syria, provided Kurdish fighters withdraw from a 32km ‘safe zone’ on the border between the two countries.

US Vice President Mike Pence made the announcement following talks with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara.

He said US forces had already begun to facilitate the safe withdrawal of Kurdish troops from the area.

He said Turkey has agreed to engage in no military action against people living in the city of Kobani just south of the Turkish border.

Pence announces Turkish ceasefire in northern Syria

This looks like good news. The details are still coming in. I hope it holds and we can have some peace in that region.

Erdogan said that Turkey will resettle up to 2 million refuges in the new safe zone. This was Erdogan's main goal of the invasion. Looks like it could be a win-win for the region.

Here are live updates at CNN.

US says Turkey agrees to a ceasefire in Syria

“The President made it clear that we're not going to have military personnel on the ground, but the United States will continue to engage diplomatically, politically and, of course, in humanitarian aid and support to effect all of the people affected in this region,” Pence said.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

Pence steps up to the plate and manages to negotiate a 5 day cease fire. Very good news, hopefully we can use those 5 days to regain some balance and do some damage control.

Seems like Pence is showing people that he CAN do the job of the president, and that he is the real negotiating force behind this administration.

Not a fan of Pence, but credit where it's due. This gives us some breathing room.

One question remains: where are the 1,000 US troops that have been removed from Syria. Last count of US forces on the ground was 28, which means at least 972 of our forces have left Syria.

Where are they?

As far as I know, no left or right media outlet, nor the propaganda media sites, absolutely nobody has posted a video of US troops coming home, arriving to their families as we usually see.

Where are they if they are not in Syria?

a reply to: LookingAtMars

Instant prediction...


Turkey will claim they did not move and continue eradicating then..

Your own link says this isn't a ceasefire:

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the reached agreement between the US and Turkey to suspend military operations in Syria is not a ceasefire.
" "This is not a ceasefire," Cavusoglu said during a televised news conference today."

“We will pause the operation for 120 hours in order for the terrorists to leave,” Cavusoglu said. "We will only stop the operation if our conditions are met.”

a reply to: Oraculi

I always understood it that the troops were leaving northern Syria but still serving their role as advisers in other areas of the country.

I think people ran with the "withdrawing from Syria", though to my knowledge, that was never the official narrative.

a reply to: Oraculi

Dollars to donuts says it is smoke and mirrors and the Turks say they did not leave the area and continue eradicating them..

That kinda tactic is very old.. make request that is impossible for the leadership to enforce..
You can go back through history and it is a staple even in ancient times..


The romans were famous for it.


For example...

A) it would be super easy for turkey to lie..

B) you could have Kurds totally unconnected to the leadership stay in the areas..

a reply to: Oraculi

A few days ago I read some went to Iraq, not sure they are still there. I would think they are at one of our many bases in the area.

Maybe even Turkey.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

This 4D chess match is getting better by the minute!

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I think northern Syria was the contested region anyway..

The difference between the West Bank and the other side of Israel..

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Instant prediction...


Turkey will claim they did not move and continue eradicating then..

Kinda doubt that.

Turkey got what it really wanted, a buffer zone.

a reply to: underwerks

Well it is the media.

Not sure what that means if is true. Just word games would be my guess.

a reply to: manuelram16

So is there still a 4D chess match with NK or did America just lose????


I kept hearing about this 4D match then too, but we never got anything..

This "pause" gives Erdogen time to re-supply and assess intel.

Then the real killing begins...

a reply to: LookingAtMars

From my understanding the Turks want to eradicate the Kurds as they are their ancestral enemy..

a reply to: LookingAtMars

Well with this one will will definitely get an answer fast.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Oraculi

I always understood it the troops were leaving northern Syria but still serving their role as advisors in other areas of the country.

I think people ran with the "withdrawing from Syria", though to my knowledge, that was never the official narrative.

I think you're mostly right here. There was no official STATEMENT regarding where the troops were going, but there was an official NARRATIVE and that was that we "needed to bring our troops home!"

It's easy to see how people could be tricked into thinking these troops were actually coming home, with such narrative.

They're most likely on stand-by in a neighboring country, pending where all this chaos goes, before they are sent elsewhere to finish their deployment.

originally posted by: Oraculi
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Pence steps up to the plate and manages to negotiate a 5 day cease fire. Very good news, hopefully we can use those 5 days to regain some balance and do some damage control.

Seems like Pence is showing people that he CAN do the job of the president, and that he is the real negotiating force behind this administration.

Not a fan of Pence, but credit where it's due. This gives us some breathing room.

One question remains: where are the 1,000 US troops that have been removed from Syria. Last count of US forces on the ground was 28, which means at least 972 of our forces have left Syria.

Where are they?

As far as I know, no left or right media outlet, nor the propaganda media sites, absolutely nobody has posted a video of US troops coming home, arriving to their families as we usually see.

Where are they if they are not in Syria?

It was only 50 troops pulled out. Do your own research and don't depend on CNN.

Maybe I'm crazy, but how is this anything other than Pence negotiating the unconditional surrender of all Kurdish territory and the immediate lifting of all sanctions on Turkey in exchange for nothing?

originally posted by: Oraculi
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Pence steps up to the plate and manages to negotiate a 5 day cease fire. Very good news, hopefully we can use those 5 days to regain some balance and do some damage control.

Seems like Pence is showing people that he CAN do the job of the president, and that he is the real negotiating force behind this administration.

Not a fan of Pence, but credit where it's due. This gives us some breathing room.

One question remains: where are the 1,000 US troops that have been removed from Syria. Last count of US forces on the ground was 28, which means at least 972 of our forces have left Syria.

Where are they?

As far as I know, no left or right media outlet, nor the propaganda media sites, absolutely nobody has posted a video of US troops coming home, arriving to their families as we usually see.

Where are they if they are not in Syria?

Not understanding things is OK, but it's important to learn from them. Special Forces groups don't have big homecomings, and news cameras waiting for them to arrive. They try really hard to not be noticed and not be asked about where they have been or where they are going.

Feel free to fact check that with anyone who has served.

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: manuelram16

So is there still a 4D chess match with NK or did America just lose????

Well, little kim took a ride up his special mountain on a white horse the other day, so something is about to happen.