Autopsy Finds Broken Bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s Neck, Deepening Questions Around His Death

Okay, so here's what happened...

The guards went to Epstein's cell with a rope, a chair and a remote control. They gave the rope and the chair to Epstein and used the remote to pop the Bat-hook out of the ceiling. Then they told Epstein they were going to take a nap for a while..."so, do the right thing now, Jeffrey!"

Yeah, that could happen...that's the ticket. Now back to planet Earth...

Okay, now to the CCTV camera discussion...I don't care what prison or jail you are in, there are CCTV cameras all over the place. And these cameras are a VITAL part of the facility's operation! Now, I could see some goofy personal rights and privacy argument where camera views were taken out of cells proper, but there's no way you can tell me an entire facility like the MCC was without CCTV coverage. So, no mater what anyone says; there are videos of the areas outside Epstein's cell.

Consequently, if the guards (or someone) really did what I described in my fantasy opening statement on this post...then there's video of it! Period.

ETA - Oh, and guards cannot manipulate cameras in prisons and jails. This is intentional. Corruption between guards and prisoners is a real thing, so CCTV systems are designed so they can't be manipulated, controlled (i.e. turned off) or obscured by guards, for exactly the reasons we are talking about here!

a reply to: Xabi87

Can you try to keep this not personal? Do you think you could possible do that?

Calling me names does not strengthen your arguments at all and actually make them look weaker.

a reply to: IAMTAT

It seems very odd to me.
What the phuck to we pay these guys for?

a reply to: luthier

That again is department of corrections not the judge or prosecutors.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

It seems very odd to me.
What the phuck to we pay these guys for?

Or someone else paid them more to do something else

a reply to: Scepticaldem

Funny two people mentioned Hillary and neither of them were me.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Nope. The judge decides where a person is held.

The FBoP decides on how to do it. The prosecution explains the case to the FBoP.

a reply to: Xabi87

I already did.

originally posted by: carewemust
President Trump had inside info that the Clintons were involved.

Just like he did that the Obama Admin wiretapped Trump Tower.

Stupid arseholes in the media keep forgetting he has Presidential briefings of highly classified/sensitive intelligence gathered.

you think so?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Not like a promise from the dead man would ever mean anything afterward.
So unless somehow they were paid up front... Did he have huge amounts in his commissary account?
Cuz the lawyers could not be involved in getting the money to them. That would imply they knew about it and did nothing to prevent it.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Could be... maybe rope would be a better comparison? Same principle.

Or maybe people just aren't as creative as they used to be.

a reply to: luthier

Where he is held sure...but not the running of the place he is held.

Just quit already. The judge and prosecutors have nothing to do with the running of the prisons or the sheets or the toothpaste or what they wash the floors with. Period...

Why not just let this one go huh? everyone is wrong once in a while.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Not like a promise from the dead man would ever mean anything afterward.
So unless somehow they were paid up front... Did he have huge amounts in his commissary account?
Cuz the lawyers could not be involved in getting the money to them. That would imply they knew about it and did nothing to prevent it.

I doubt he was the one doing the paying.

Epstein implicated many people.

It's not too hard to imagine many wanting him gone.

a reply to: Sillyolme


This is naive. The prosecution certainly talks with the FBoP about the cases.


This has nothing to do with toothpaste. It has to do with layers of surveillance to create this exact situation. Which is why el Chapo was not killed. It wasn't over janitors.

When the FBoP gets the case from the prosecution it's well established what the risks are to the prisoner from his own or others actions.

We have already a situation with assault or attempted suicide. If you don't think there were other things like standing guards for this case you are also naive how this works.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: burntheships

Related in some way to Senator George Mitchel?

Eta: can't establish a link, but he was the same friend mentioned here:


www.palmbeachpost.com...

Interesting connection perhaps?

I did read that Bill Clinton wanted to nominate Sen George Mitchell
to the Supreme Court. Not sure if this was before or after he
was caught up in the Epstein sex abuse scandal.

Old Slick Willy, he was always on the job.

We're told the bed sheets were tied to the top of a bunk bed and Epstein either hurled himself off the top bunk or had his feet to the ground and leaned forward to cut off his air supply. Authorities believe the former is true, because throwing himself off the top bunk and falling violently to the ground could explain why his hyoid bone was fractured.

a reply to: Sillyolme


Well look at that. He would have had to have thrown himself off the bed to break his bone...

a reply to: luthier

Perhaps your having trouble understanding kinetic energy...how would leaning forward break the bone.

How can vomiting break it?

The pressure would be right on that bone if he was leaning forward.

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He may even have pitched himself forward in an effort to speed the whole mess along.

a reply to: KKLOCO

Might believe it.....

Need I say more?

a reply to: luthier

And apparently you have never been to a gym and don't understand the meat heads that get involved.

Yeah they kind of frown on that kind of behavior at Planet Fitness.

I saw someone drop a weight on their foot once... at the YMCA though and they are not as careful as some gyms.

In school I played field hockey. Tough on the knees and shins but pretty much left the neck intact.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
General, but standard in suicide watch-prevention.

Was he not in suicide watch-prevention at the time?