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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
All the suffering in the world is caused by man when will humanity owns up to that fact. Until then we will keep blaming God who some say does not exist so the only ones to blame is us.
All the suffering in the world is caused by man when will humanity owns up to that fact...
originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
...but also a evil hating god according the Bible.
dudes....
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
1. Because there's no such thing as God?
2. If there was such a thing, the being would have to be more of a sadist or something to have done all of this by design. Kind of a bizarre belief system some people have. But that's humans for you.
3. That's satisfying enough for me.
originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: WhiteHat
I see your point, it's interesting.
But did life also created itself then?
We sure speak of God as the creator of eXiSTeNce.
cause He sent us intstructions for success.......on planet Earth.....big ole thick read
originally posted by: WhiteHat
originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: WhiteHat
I see your point, it's interesting.
But did life also created itself then?
We sure speak of God as the creator of eXiSTeNce.
I think, but of course I might be wrong that life (or God for that matter) it always was and will always be in one form or another. I'm talking about something with no beginning and no end. I don't know if is a form of energy, a form of consciousness or whatever, but there must be something that remains when all else ends, something that allows a new beginning, over and over again. And God must also be eternal, otherwise would not really be God.
"We sure speak of God as the creator of eXiSTeNce."
Why not speak of God as the existence itself?
Just food for thought...
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
God did create a world where we must eat or suffer, and the act of acquiring food means one must compete with other beings and others people, causing suffering for them. God did create disease, weather, death. God did create birth defects, viruses, etc. I'd say about 95% of the suffering inflicted upon the world can be linked directly to God if God exists... So yeah if God exists, he's a sick twisted sadist who's created a universe where all beings spend their existence trying to protect themselves and their loved ones from as much suffering as possible all while being forced to inflict suffering on other beings to do so.
Even if God gave man free will, he also made suicide a sin, and suicide is literally the only action a person could commit to stop bringing suffering to others, but wait, people they love will hurt, so yeah suffering there too.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
God did create a world where we must eat or suffer, and the act of acquiring food means one must compete with other beings and others people, causing suffering for them. God did create disease, weather, death. God did create birth defects, viruses, etc. I'd say about 95% of the suffering inflicted upon the world can be linked directly to God if God exists... So yeah if God exists, he's a sick twisted sadist who's created a universe where all beings spend their existence trying to protect themselves and their loved ones from as much suffering as possible all while being forced to inflict suffering on other beings to do so.
Even if God gave man free will, he also made suicide a sin, and suicide is literally the only action a person could commit to stop bringing suffering to others, but wait, people they love will hurt, so yeah suffering there too.
originally posted by: TheTruthRocks
"When your child was learning to walk, how did you handle it?"
Falling down and getting back up is similar to suffering from things like cancer and starvation?
originally posted by: WhiteHat
I'm not a believer nor an atheist per se; hard to say what I am and what I believe, but I like to think a lot about these things because there is a lot to think about.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
God did create a world where we must eat or suffer, and the act of acquiring food means one must compete with other beings and others people, causing suffering for them. God did create disease, weather, death. God did create birth defects, viruses, etc. I'd say about 95% of the suffering inflicted upon the world can be linked directly to God if God exists... So yeah if God exists, he's a sick twisted sadist who's created a universe where all beings spend their existence trying to protect themselves and their loved ones from as much suffering as possible all while being forced to inflict suffering on other beings to do so.
Even if God gave man free will, he also made suicide a sin, and suicide is literally the only action a person could commit to stop bringing suffering to others, but wait, people they love will hurt, so yeah suffering there too.
It seems that ego-death, is very similar to suicide, in many ways.