2 Retired CA Fire Captains show evidence of DEW Ca Camp fire

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: neutronflux

The answer is obvious why DEW induced fires are preferred over more common fire starting methods.

Can you figure it out?

That it didn’t happen?

Reread the OP again and see what these retired firefighters say about it. Are you smarter than they are, and did you go there and investigate like they did? No, you did not, and you are not even close to their level of intelligence and professional training in such matters.

If you are, then prove your credentials and come up with something better than deflections and worthless innuendos.

a reply to: neutronflux

Sorry but I have seen fires. Started from hundreds of feet away with lasers from wicked lasers that cost only a few hundred bucks. And yes you could start one with a match and and paper but if you wanted to leave as little as evidence of you causing the fire the ability to start one from hundreds of feet away with a laser would be a good way to do it because there would be no physical evidence in immediate area that you were there.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

What is their piece of most critical evidence? See if it can stand criticism?

And you didn’t answer

“Four, what is the motive to start the wildfires that are already stated by lightning, deficient electrical infrastructure, and careless people.

Five, if you are referring to avoiding detection, how many arsonists avoid being caught each year. If there are being started by the government, why would they worry about being caught.

How many wildfires before supposed energy weapons whose methods of ignition were never determined. Now wildfires are because of energy weapons. Stupid logic.”

a reply to: proteus33

Can you post a link to a model, I might like to buy one.

a reply to: proteus33

You can do the same with a magnifying lens
:-)

a reply to: proteus33

Like this

Starting a Fire with a Laser Pointer
m.youtube.com...

a reply to: proteus33

Or how about steel and flint?

a reply to: neutronflux Natural wildfires do not burn all the cars on the side of the road. Natural wildfires don't slice houses in half. It appears that the total land destroyed by these fires just happens to coincide with most of the route needed for the California High Speed rail system. There is even a area burned that lines up with a spur of this High Speed rail that ends up in Las Vegas. I do know that Snopes has shown that the areas burned fall short of the area needed for the High Speed Rail in some places but the route could be changed to agree with the areas destroyed by fire. We will have to keep an eye on the eminent domain proceeding in the future. The Agenda 21 plan needs to get us out of our cars. I personally don't believe even a complete rail system would do that any more than the existing Amtrak system has done.

Looks like PG&E is going down, and being implicated in the cause of the worst of the fires...

www.bloomberg.com...

PG&E May Give Bankruptcy Notices to Staff on Monday

Snippet...

A notice may signal that the company has accelerated plans to make a Chapter 11 filing as way of dealing with crippling liabilities from wildfires that tore through California in 2017 and 2018, killing over 100 people and destroying hundreds of thousands of acres. Investigators are probing whether PG&E’s equipment ignited the deadliest of the blazes. The company is facing as much as $30 billion in damages 

a reply to: Larry2323
Think about what you just posted? How would a energy weapon that ignited a house into flames only burn a portion of the house too?

a reply to: Larry2323

As far as the car thing. It is probably related to wind direction, and which tires caught fire. I can very well see how the side of the car closest to the down wind side of fire would be more effected than the side farthest from the wind.

Is it false to say car fires don’t often result in a totally burnt car?

a reply to: Larry2323

Why did this fire burn itself out?

Man, dog found dead after apparent kitchen fire in Gresham home
chicago.suntimes.com...

a reply to: Larry2323

So you are saying once the Carr fire was already burning, the energy weapon was repeatedly used. What house are you taking about? Are you talking about random spots that could not be attributed to the Carr fire? Not part of the wildfire’s path? If you are saying once a house is ablaze in the middle of a burnt out neighborhood it should totally be destroyed, what difference would it make if it was started by embers or laser?

No!!!!

The damn fire was started by a powerline by PG&E. Why in the hell would you use a direct energy weapon when a mstch does the same.

originally posted by: ausername
Looks like PG&E is going down, and being implicated in the cause of the worst of the fires...

www.bloomberg.com...

PG&E May Give Bankruptcy Notices to Staff on Monday

Snippet...

A notice may signal that the company has accelerated plans to make a Chapter 11 filing as way of dealing with crippling liabilities from wildfires that tore through California in 2017 and 2018, killing over 100 people and destroying hundreds of thousands of acres. Investigators are probing whether PG&E’s equipment ignited the deadliest of the blazes. The company is facing as much as $30 billion in damages 

Electrically induced as the gentlemen concluded is certainly correct. But instead of some nefarious plot it was simply poor power line maintenance. The ignorance here is overwhelming.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Larry2323

Why did this fire burn itself out?

Man, dog found dead after apparent kitchen fire in Gresham home
chicago.suntimes.com...

Seriously? Brick, proper building materials, lack of wind and oxygen.

i saw this when she released these.

im not sure what went down in that fire, but it was not normal.

i didnt know about the rail project they are doing in cali. and it seems like the fire followed its path rather well

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Larry2323

Why did this fire burn itself out?

Man, dog found dead after apparent kitchen fire in Gresham home
chicago.suntimes.com...

Seriously? Brick, proper building materials, lack of wind and oxygen.

Then some or all those listed factors are why embers from the Carr fire left some houses not totally burnt to the ground.

originally posted by: Larry2323
Natural wildfires do not burn all the cars on the side of the road. Natural wildfires don't slice houses in half.

Yes they do. There's documented evidence from Pompey where homes were burned completely on one side and wax tablets were intact on the other side.

It appears that the total land destroyed by these fires just happens to coincide with most of the route needed for the California High Speed rail system.

These took place mostly in elevated areas, the high speed is to run through the Central Valley.

originally posted by: ausername
Looks like PG&E is going down, and being implicated in the cause of the worst of the fires...

www.bloomberg.com...

PG&E May Give Bankruptcy Notices to Staff on Monday

Snippet...

A notice may signal that the company has accelerated plans to make a Chapter 11 filing as way of dealing with crippling liabilities from wildfires that tore through California in 2017 and 2018, killing over 100 people and destroying hundreds of thousands of acres. Investigators are probing whether PG&E’s equipment ignited the deadliest of the blazes. The company is facing as much as $30 billion in damages 

So PG&E is on the hook for dozens of major wildfires consuming hundreds of lives, thousands of homes and billions in damages. Maybe bankrupting them was part of the plan - how else can you take over a major utility? They're guaranteed a profit if run half decently so maybe this was the only way to get control.

The absence of thousands protesting in Sacramento for an investigation and criminal prosecution is to me the most perplexing bit. The amount of negligence and possible outright ill intent by PG&E is astounding if they really are responsible for these fires.