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originally posted by: watchandwait410
a reply to: muzzleflash
Spoken like someone who is a norm. You obviously don't get it. It is people like you who make me hate the human race.
Thankfully I don't care about opinions like yours. Sometimes you just can't "change it". Control/freedom has nothing to do with it. Its is about getting help when crap is just too much. Many are not lucky enough to just fix it with their own logic.
originally posted by: watchandwait410
a reply to: muzzleflash
Whatever I still don't like you, I am not the only one with issues. You are clearly a closet scientologist.
originally posted by: underwerks
It won’t stop until ...
A father guns down his wife and teen daughter and then himself in the family’s Lakewood Ranch home. Hours later, a sheriff’s deputy shoots his wife in Land O’Lakes and uses the same gun to take his own life.
The recent cases led the news. Over the next five days in the Tampa Bay region, three more murder-suicide cases and one attempted case would follow.
Could news coverage of the earlier cases have been on the minds of killers in the later cases?
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: watchandwait410
I don't have time to waste on people who don't value themselves.
Until the day someone you care about that you had no idea they were suffering offs themselves right?
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: watchandwait410
a reply to: muzzleflash
Whatever I still don't like you, I am not the only one with issues. You are clearly a closet scientologist.
If you think Muzz is a "norm" who doesn't get "it", you clearly haven't read about his alien ambassador ex.
His POV, however, is fairly sound. Only you can help you at the end of the day. You cannot force a pill down a throat and call it a fix.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: watchandwait410
a reply to: muzzleflash
Whatever I still don't like you, I am not the only one with issues. You are clearly a closet scientologist.
If you think Muzz is a "norm" who doesn't get "it", you clearly haven't read about his alien ambassador ex.
His POV, however, is fairly sound. Only you can help you at the end of the day. You cannot force a pill down a throat and call it a fix.
originally posted by: watchandwait410
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: watchandwait410
a reply to: muzzleflash
Whatever I still don't like you, I am not the only one with issues. You are clearly a closet scientologist.
If you think Muzz is a "norm" who doesn't get "it", you clearly haven't read about his alien ambassador ex.
His POV, however, is fairly sound. Only you can help you at the end of the day. You cannot force a pill down a throat and call it a fix.
Just because you believe in aliens doesn't mean you understand mental illness. He is acting like he knows all the answers when he doesn't have the experience to be making the claim he has.
Some people need help even if they don't ask for it because they don't know how. They think that they are so broken that they just don't think they are worth it. True you can't force it on people but you can at least be their and see the signs. Not say "oh well who cares they were broken".
He is against meds when he was never so desperate to NEED them. They are a last resort and I don't care if his normal mental state point of view, a opinion about something he just doesn't understand.
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: watchandwait410
I don't have time to waste on people who don't value themselves.
Until the day someone you care about that you had no idea they were suffering offs themselves right?
No,
I've known quite a few people who have offed themselves.
If they didn't care enough about themselves why would I?
originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: watchandwait410
S & F, and bless your heart for giving of yourself.
But man! ATS is sooooo weird sometimes!
Seems like different folks, understand words in completely different contexts.
Read the OP, and then read the comments up until the one above this post.
After reading the OP: was understanding that you were looking at the whole subject of mental-health, on a macro, or societal level.
Understood that you never proposed intervening on individuals, but rather wished to discuss why are so many folks struggling, and is there anything we might look at to make our society a better place.
It's not about interfering in individuals lives.
It's about creating a better world, for our grandchildren.
But then there are those who just want to see the world burn. Oh well.
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: schuyler
And though psych meds are an issue, it's a side issue. Very few of those 800,000 per year have been on psych meds.
Have any stats or studies to back that "opinion" up?
originally posted by: Archivalist
As the OP has stated "Suicide is a long term solution"
Suicide solves itself, give or take a few dozen generations.
Darwinism and what-not.