Enforcing The Insurrection Act of 1807 when constituted authorities r incapable of maint order

So i'm going to expound on my theory that the US FEDERALGovernment is no longer a viable entity that conforms to the Original Constitution Of the United States of America. TREASON, COLLABORATION & COLLUTION, & ZERO enforcement of US laws for politicians.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255) that governs the ability of the President of the United States to deploy military troops within the United States to put down lawlessness, insurrection, and rebellion. The general purpose is to limit presidential power, relying on state and local governments for initial response in the event of insurrection. Coupled with the Posse Comitatus Act, presidential powers for domestic law enforcement are limited and delayed.

This Act was used to declare the commencement of the American Civil War.

There are events that are Now ongoing in the US that require the enforcement of this act check out this current news head line:

Occupy Ice: protest camps expand across US amid calls to shutter agency
Activists target Ice facilities in cities including San Francisco and Philadelphia: ‘We’ll be here as long as we can’

For military forces to be used under the provisions of the revised Insurrection Act, the following conditions must be met:
the President determines that--

(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and
(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

Its kinda Paraphrasing because to just read it in its entirety with the way its presented is for a lay man tedious and broken up.
Here,s another few Current head lines:
- Democrat Maxine Waters: Time to confront Trump administration
- Justice Department prosecutors and congressional investigators both cannot be right about the House IT scandal
- The scandals that led to Scott Pruitt's resignation- all personal Corruption attacks NOT anything to do with the CHANGES he's made in the regulations of the EPA no news about that...
So with all of this its just a few items that determine that the above NEEDS to be enforced against Washington DC

opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

Hell just Imran Awan.Have you read any of the actual documents of that case ?? nope nor will you... Its closed -PLEA DEAL?
In July 2017, he was arrested as part of a federal investigation that probed, among other things, whether he and several family members had stolen government hardware and/or classified government data from the politicians he worked for
IG report-
In fact, the overlooked bombshell of the report is the inspector general's confirmation that classified information contained in Clinton's emails was in fact compromised by foreign intelligence services,
The emails contain new examples of the Clinton Foundation requesting and receiving State Department favors, plus more cases of classified information being sent through unsecure, non-state.gov accounts.

Look its all Bull# it's CYA in Washington DC and ZERO repercussions & The president if he wasn't in on it as well, Should enforce the Act FOR DC and clear out the entire establishment it's a monster of gigantic proportions...... head exploding now so ill stop

Sorry about the presentation it looked better in my head LOL Here READ IT.

en.wikipedia.org...

Oh and don't forget the Businesses & MEDIA that's PUSHING for these things with OPEN propaganda, false stories, & Barely any FACTS before publishing.

a reply to: TheJesuit

classified information contained in Clinton's emails was in fact compromised by foreign intelligence services

I don't think this was revealed. Can you point to where in the report they even discussed the server except as to how the FBI behaved in making the announcement about not charging her?
Please?

NOPE
a reply to: Sillyolme

No.

No.

No.

No.

The military wasn't created for domestic 'pacification'.

The local police seem to be doing just fine in breaking up these protests when they cross the line into hindering official duties.

As an active duty service member, I see no way any reasonable person could think the use of a military force would be justified in these situations.

As much fun as it would be to go crack skulls of these delusional and misinformed leftists.

I say No. A thousand times No.
We are not some banana republic that needs to use a military response for some little protest.

Not pacification of the general public, Corruption of the Federal Government for Not Prosecuting for treason, traitors, Collusion, Perjury ect ect It's now a Circus in DC literally..... Since when is it OK for an elected Government to use MASS propaganda AGAINST it's people?

a reply to: neo96

a reply to: TheJesuit

Since the last prez legalized it.

All politics is propaganda. That has only one goal.

Convince the masses one side is better than the other side.

IE. The false choice fallacy.

a reply to: TheJesuit


It's not needed at this time. Unlike 1807; we have a fully functional law enforcement that can and does handle these types of events. I get the feeling that you want some kind of civil war, is that about right?


Here's the issue that you are really advocating, Martial Law. You are stating that you want martial law, and I have to ask why would anyone want that? If nation wide martial law was imposed then a civil uprising would not be far behind. Since we have individuals that can deal with these issues that you've brought up (both here and in your other thread where you basically stated something similar) we the people don't have to worry. On the other hand, if an armed uprising from the socialist ideolog were to happen, then I could see you having a point, but since the side making the most noise about wanting this civil unrest is also the biggest crybabies I really doubt that we have anything to worry about.

a reply to: TheJesuit

NOPE.

If the local law enforcement can't handle things. You call out the state national guard.

I've yet to see law enforcement not handle things.

And btw. Protests are covered in the constitution. Why are you mad at people expressing their right to protest the government?

I m Not advocating civil war by no means i want Federal order, professionalism, And corrupt Politicians held accountable fully and swiftly my issue is with the Blatant disregard for respecting the law on a federal level it's become a reality tv show type of Politics in Washington DC the media is polarizing every side and when the US populace is left alone it's fairly peaceful & respectful of others views ... but not so much any more going down a dark road so to speak.

a reply to: Guyfriday

a reply to: TheJesuit

If a sitting president were so quick to invoke such a liberal reading of the Insurrection Act, we'd have a dictatorship.

Thank you for not being our president.

You're not, right?

Donny, is that you?

Do what Washington did during the Whiskey rebellion in Pennsylvania - call out the militia.
That is one of their proper roles.

Shhh! lol. Feelers.....

a reply to: SlapMonkey

originally posted by: TheJesuit
I m Not advocating civil war by no means i want Federal order, professionalism, And corrupt Politicians held accountable fully and swiftly

So you don't like how politicians and the government is handling things, so you want the military to do what, exactly?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: TheJesuit
I m Not advocating civil war by no means i want Federal order, professionalism, And corrupt Politicians held accountable fully and swiftly

So you don't like how politicians and the government is handling things, so you want the military to do what, exactly?

I dont know what TheJesuit is asking for, but I know what I would like to see.

I would like to see the Military IG and investigators take over the DOJ and FBI, and go threw all the information, and file treason charges against the guilty!

It is now blatantly obvious our Governments DOJ and FBI were infiltrated and taken over by treasonous agent provocateurs and enemies of our constitution. They are incapable of investigating themselves, to include the DOJ's own IG(even though he has exposed great damage to our government). Send the Military to safe guard all computer systems and data bases for criminal investigation. In fact, parts of our government have in deed been overthrown, by domestic enemies!

What do you normally call it when the military takes over a government? A "military coup d'etat." That's what you are asking for. And how likely do you think that is going to happen? What do you think the populace would do if that happened? You are asking the military to completely subvert the constitution and "take over." I think that is a very poor idea and people who advocate such a move are very scary, indeed.

I know who the right wing malcontents are and the authorities need to be alerted. soon!! Even some are on ATS. Beware!!

See how that works? btw....I don't trust Catholics!!

originally posted by: schuyler
What do you normally call it when the military takes over a government? A "military coup d'etat." That's what you are asking for. And how likely do you think that is going to happen? What do you think the populace would do if that happened? You are asking the military to completely subvert the constitution and "take over." I think that is a very poor idea and people who advocate such a move are very scary, indeed.

Not asking for that at all. I'm asking the Military to Seize the DOJ and FBI computer systems and data bases, and to conduct a investigation into treason. They do not have to wear their uniforms, if it bothers you.

It is not a " "military coup d'etat.", as the Legislative and executive branches will remain the same. Only the Judicial branch will be under military investigation, for treason!!

Lmao. Why would you be worried about having to face an opposing force that can barely handle a few road side bombs and lone desert/mountain snipers/raiders.

If you think the US army stands any sort of chance in Urban Warfare, where gangs and the like would have a way upper hand and..well..nothing to lose at that point, i think you are substantially mistaken.

There will likely never be Martial Law, ever.