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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Trump has magical powers. He divides people like Moses did the Red Sea.
Neither magical powers nor the parting of the Red Sea are attributed to Moses in the Bible.
Trump doesn't have magical powers either. He is however a demagogue who employs the dehumanization and othering of various groups to stoke irrational fear among his base for political benefit.
originally posted by: Grimmley
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: underwerks
I get it Trump isn't very likable I didn't vote for him but to say its all Trump IMO isn't correct. Hillary called half the country deplorable and the media calls Trump supporters Nazi scum. The division is on both sides the difference is the media is far left leaning and plays on peoples emotions. They've demonized people who support the president as people you can't even have a respectable debate with you just need to protest and yell.
I can't blame them they've been told Republicans and Trump supporters can never be apart of society and the only way is if their side wins so they can ignore them and push their policy. Compromise is dead
Trump could end all of it. By doing nothing more than the job a president is supposed to do. Namely by trying to represent ALL Americans and not just the ones who voted for him.
If Trump came out honestly trying to work on compromise between people and refrained from insulting those who disagree with him, a large part of the media and public vitriol would evaporate.
But he doesn’t want that. The constant attacks build him up and solidify him in the eyes of his supporters. And that isn’t something he’s going to throw away.
He actually said that at his inaugural speech and his first state of the union address, but guess what everyone was throwing tantrums, protesting, rioting, and saying "he's not my president". No one from the Democrats wanted to work with him on anything, in fact they have called him every name in the book, made false accusations, and have attempted to block, every piece of legislation he tries to get done, even ones that gives the Democrats what they wanted. just to say No. Not to mention the entire corruption of various federal governmental agencies, as well as the bias in the MSM. So how do you purpose that he can fix this to be everyone's president? If they are not going to work with him, and do nothing but attack him, over and over again.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Grimmley
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: underwerks
I get it Trump isn't very likable I didn't vote for him but to say its all Trump IMO isn't correct. Hillary called half the country deplorable and the media calls Trump supporters Nazi scum. The division is on both sides the difference is the media is far left leaning and plays on peoples emotions. They've demonized people who support the president as people you can't even have a respectable debate with you just need to protest and yell.
I can't blame them they've been told Republicans and Trump supporters can never be apart of society and the only way is if their side wins so they can ignore them and push their policy. Compromise is dead
Trump could end all of it. By doing nothing more than the job a president is supposed to do. Namely by trying to represent ALL Americans and not just the ones who voted for him.
If Trump came out honestly trying to work on compromise between people and refrained from insulting those who disagree with him, a large part of the media and public vitriol would evaporate.
But he doesn’t want that. The constant attacks build him up and solidify him in the eyes of his supporters. And that isn’t something he’s going to throw away.
He actually said that at his inaugural speech and his first state of the union address, but guess what everyone was throwing tantrums, protesting, rioting, and saying "he's not my president". No one from the Democrats wanted to work with him on anything, in fact they have called him every name in the book, made false accusations, and have attempted to block, every piece of legislation he tries to get done, even ones that gives the Democrats what they wanted. just to say No. Not to mention the entire corruption of various federal governmental agencies, as well as the bias in the MSM. So how do you purpose that he can fix this to be everyone's president? If they are not going to work with him, and do nothing but attack him, over and over again.
As I said before, he’s going to have to make concessions. He’s going to have to do a few deals that he doesn’t come out on top of in the name of bringing people together.
He’s going to have to make a sacrifice with some of his policy. Which isn’t going to happen because he’s still under the umbrella of the GOP.
Thinking about all this may make some Trump supporters angry, but that’s the path to a less divided country. I would actually support Trump if he honestly tried to diffuse the current political craziness, instead of ramping it up every chance he gets.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Grimmley
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: underwerks
I get it Trump isn't very likable I didn't vote for him but to say its all Trump IMO isn't correct. Hillary called half the country deplorable and the media calls Trump supporters Nazi scum. The division is on both sides the difference is the media is far left leaning and plays on peoples emotions. They've demonized people who support the president as people you can't even have a respectable debate with you just need to protest and yell.
I can't blame them they've been told Republicans and Trump supporters can never be apart of society and the only way is if their side wins so they can ignore them and push their policy. Compromise is dead
Trump could end all of it. By doing nothing more than the job a president is supposed to do. Namely by trying to represent ALL Americans and not just the ones who voted for him.
If Trump came out honestly trying to work on compromise between people and refrained from insulting those who disagree with him, a large part of the media and public vitriol would evaporate.
But he doesn’t want that. The constant attacks build him up and solidify him in the eyes of his supporters. And that isn’t something he’s going to throw away.
He actually said that at his inaugural speech and his first state of the union address, but guess what everyone was throwing tantrums, protesting, rioting, and saying "he's not my president". No one from the Democrats wanted to work with him on anything, in fact they have called him every name in the book, made false accusations, and have attempted to block, every piece of legislation he tries to get done, even ones that gives the Democrats what they wanted. just to say No. Not to mention the entire corruption of various federal governmental agencies, as well as the bias in the MSM. So how do you purpose that he can fix this to be everyone's president? If they are not going to work with him, and do nothing but attack him, over and over again.
As I said before, he’s going to have to make concessions. He’s going to have to do a few deals that he doesn’t come out on top of in the name of bringing people together.
He’s going to have to make a sacrifice with some of his policy. Which isn’t going to happen because he’s still under the umbrella of the GOP.
Thinking about all this may make some Trump supporters angry, but that’s the path to a less divided country. I would actually support Trump if he honestly tried to diffuse the current political craziness, instead of ramping it up every chance he gets.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: notsure1
The media really is the enemy of the American people.
Agreed.
Then we need to again look at who owns the media and what their agenda is for the American people.
Hint: What do Fox, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, HBO, New York Times, Facebook, and many more, all have in common?
I really do wish that you and others who are currently thinking like you, would look at yourself from an outside perspective. Is this the kind of person you really want to be? Intolerant of others political ideals if they don't match yours? If that's you, I suppose you are just being true to yourself, but I seem to remember how the left was the more compassionate ones, who cared more for others. You and a large portion of the left just seems like angry little people who lost a fight and want someone to blame for your weakness.
Donald Trump Jr. on Trump critics he sees on TV: "People in far-off lands who hate our guts. They hate our freedoms. They hate our religion. They hate everything about us. These people are more concerned about their feelings...than the safety and well-being of our kids."
Donald Trump Jr. warns Montana voters to be wary of Jon Tester donors' "New York money."
I've never seen hatred like this. To me, they're not even people. It's so, so sad. I mean, morality is just gone. Morals have flown out the window. We deserve so much better than this as a country. You know it's so sad.
Trump with another threat: "Democrats want anarchy. They really do. And they don't know who they're playing with, folks."
Everything I said about Trump is entirely accurate. He is absolutely a demagogue and frequent fearmonger.
Thinking about all this may make some Trump supporters angry, but that’s the path to a less divided country. I would actually support Trump if he honestly tried to diffuse the current political craziness, instead of ramping it up every chance he gets.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Is English not your first language? I'm just curious because I assumed it was but apparently the exceedingly commonplace phrase stoking fear is a new to you.
Everything I said about Trump is entirely accurate. He is absolutely a demagogue and frequent fearmonger.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: notsure1
No one can be manipulated without their consent and cooperation. Folks are "manipulated" by their own thoughts and attitudes. And it's "both" sides.
For example, hating the illegals for taking our jobs but not the critters handing out H1B visas like they're candy...
Or hating your neighbor for getting a few bucks to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads but not the critters handing out corporate welfare like candy for private jets and caviar...
Or hating on the hard working neighbor up the street for getting a few extra bucks back via the Earned Income Credit but not the corporations getting MILLIONS of tax dollars in unearned tax "credits"...
Or hating on the loving gay couple for "destroying" marriage but not the heterosexual couple cheating on each other or beating each other...
The media may be our enemy, but not our biggest enemy. That would be ourselves.
originally posted by: intrepid
"Are you tired of being manipulated yet?"
"Define manipulated."
You can only be manipulated if you let someone do it. Think instead of needing to be told something on ANYTHING.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: intrepid
"Are you tired of being manipulated yet?"
"Define manipulated."
You can only be manipulated if you let someone do it. Think instead of needing to be told something on ANYTHING.
Who manipulated you into believing that load of garbage ?
Wishing it was so does not make it so.
Most people who have thought this way are worse off in some ways than a devout believer in any religion.
Blind belief and born with eyes closed.
Why is everyone so weak minded they let the media control their emotions?