Vegas Shooting: Inconsistencies and Coincidences: Unanswered Questions and Irreconcilable Facts

a reply to: Allaroundyou

That’s what happens when your never offering any new ideas..

Your forced to spout logical fallacies and deflect from the topic.


It’s not even a republican issue.. it is a conservative issue.

Right wing /conservative = traditions >change

Leftwing/liberal = change > traditions.

So no new idea ever comes out of the right. So they have to fabricate a fictional reality where keeping the same broken system makes sense.

a reply to: Boadicea

Then what use is an article that everything in could be fake?!?!

i thought the three females were just registered to his room. and to say "there are three females inside", is probably just some one relaying the room information. meaning three additional people are registered to the room, they might be in there. not definitively saying inside are three females. after all im sure in those tense moments your probably not thinking about making absolute clear and concise grammatically correct sentences

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Allaroundyou

I ask myself that constantly.. some things seem to stupid for people able to operate a smart phone to believe..

Much like the English language, where the words "too" and "to" not only have different spellings, but different meanings, as well.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Did anyone ever find out the story behind the armed guards escorting someone out of a nearby casino the night of the shooting? They did not look like law enforcement, yet they were aiming their weapons at all the Americans around them in the casino and ordering everyone to freeze and put their hands up or something?

originally posted by: jgarc028
i thought the three females were just registered to his room. and to say "there are three females inside", is probably just some one relaying the room information. meaning three additional people are registered to the room, they might be in there. not definitively saying inside are three females. after all im sure in those tense moments your probably not thinking about making absolute clear and concise grammatically correct sentences

Nevertheless there are 3 females who may know something more about this and we are just now finding out they exist, so that is STILL significant.

And we can probably assume that, an officer would realize it's PRETTY important to clarify if they were not actually "in the room" like he said they were, and merely were registered to the room...so I'm not sure if that holds water that he was just nervous because of the situation. It's a pretty important detail...i don't know if I can picture him to just say "3 females in the room" and then think to himself: ah, they'll know that I meant Registered and not actually in the room.

In this case it would be helpful to see what was said before and after. There are two distinct possibilities, both include the existence of 3 females who may know something more, and I can only guess they have not come forward because they are in custody or they are call girls, or they are victims in this and are being protected.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Boadicea

Then what use is an article that everything in could be fake?!?!

Exactly the same as the authorities that are providing that fake information, right? And that's all we've got...

I verified and confirmed what I could and I even provided you the links. What can't be verified and confirmed I stated as much. That's what we've got.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Did anyone ever find out the story behind the armed guards escorting someone out of a nearby casino the night of the shooting? They did not look like law enforcement, yet they were aiming their weapons at all the Americans around them in the casino and ordering everyone to freeze and put their hands up or something?

Willtell posted that video earlier in the thread and asked the same... to the best of my knowledge, no. That video was never publicly addressed nor explained by the authorities (or even media).

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Boadicea

Then what use is an article that everything in could be fake?!?!

I really don't like picking on you, ok? But, I can't help it sometimes. Because sometimes, you just don't think.

Before this thread were you aware that the police said there were 3 women in the room?

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Did anyone ever find out the story behind the armed guards escorting someone out of a nearby casino the night of the shooting? They did not look like law enforcement, yet they were aiming their weapons at all the Americans around them in the casino and ordering everyone to freeze and put their hands up or something?

Willtell posted that video earlier in the thread and asked the same... to the best of my knowledge, no. That video was never publicly addressed nor explained by the authorities (or even media).

Yes, I was pleased to see someone else had posted it on page 2 I believe: up:
So im not the only one who still remembers that. Good.
Maybe I'll make an inquiry or two and see what I can find out. Might be worth trying to track down the uploader as well.

a reply to: 3n19m470

So im not the only one who still remembers that. Good.

You're definitely not the only one! It was a little too unsettling to forget...

Maybe I'll make an inquiry or two and see what I can find out. Might be worth trying to track down the uploader as well.

Good luck! I tried to track it down right after it happened, but didn't have much luck.

a reply to: 3n19m470

That wasn't an 'escort'; if it was an escort the individual being escorted would have been in the middle. The two guys at the back (the guy in shorts and the one in the suit) were completely exposed on their flanks.

They look, for the most part, like LVSD personnel, maybe SWAT. The guy in shorts looks like a UC (and there's a pistol in his bag) and the guy in the suit is either a detective, FBI or casino security (if you look closely you can see a shield on his belt inside his jacket).

How do we know this was the same night?

Curious to be sure though. (regardless of what night it was).

They were carrying a backboard meaning someone was down, or they expected someone to go down shortly, and wanted to be able to evac whoever that was quickly. I think the gun pointing was just to clear the way and expedite to wherever they were going. The "Hands UP" is just a quick threat-assessment tactic in a potentially hostile environment (i.e. tell everyone to put their hands up...good guys will, bad guys will duck and fight out of fear they've been discovered). This would explain why all the guns are up front.

a reply to: Boadicea


Hey isn't ATS considered a "conspiracy" web site so we can post this #?

Here's another video. Strange that when you go back in history you forget about stuff. Watch the video for a guy who was shot. I never heard his name until I saw this today. I also forgot about the George Soros name.

www.liveleak.com...

VEGAS CASE CLOSED: The Nail In The Coffin! Something to think about. Part 2 of Cut2TheTruth's coverage of the Las Vegas false flag massacre continues as Olan Thomas follows the money to show two very influential people, the CEO of MGM Resorts (Mandalay Bay) and George Soros himself, profited through put options and dumped stocks mere weeks before the event. Also included is an interview with Rocky Palmero, a shooting victim of the attack who confirms, as audio analysis and several other witnesses have also confirmed, that there were 3-5 shooters firing rounds that night.

Here's another cop cam video. Same source; LiveLeak:

www.liveleak.com...

Las Vegas Police Release Bodycam Footage of Response to Mass Shooting This is a sampling of the body worn camera footage from Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers as they helped people escape the hail of gunfire coming from the Mandalay Bay Hotel on the night of October 1st, 2017.

a reply to: Jake56

Hey isn't ATS considered a "conspiracy" web site so we can post this #?

With a couple noteworthy exceptions, yup!

...two very influential people, the CEO of MGM Resorts (Mandalay Bay) and George Soros himself, profited through put options and dumped stocks mere weeks before the event.

I recall that. I know it was reported that the dates of the transactions were a deadline of some sort, at least for the CEO of MGM, so he had to do something at that time. If the CEO was in on it, then it would make sense he would plan it after he had met the deadline and completed the transactions accordingly... or maybe it was just a coincidence.

It doesn't set right with me that so much attention has been given to the MGM CEO, who really has very little power in this situation and especially in terms of the investigation. For example, the CEO has been accused of withholding videos and other evidence. I don't believe that for a minute. I'm betting the Feds were collecting evidence before the shooting was even over, and they have anything and everything they could get their grubby paws on. So it's not MGM withholding evidence...

MGM is, of course, going to spin anything and everything in the best light for MGM. But the power of the spin is about all they've got.

a reply to: Boadicea


Stupid me. The actual morning after the shooting occurred on 02Oct18, I watched a video taken from a cell phone that at one point the fleeing group of guys / girls run into and behind a tropical themed bar venues actual bar. One girl [white-blonde] among all was shot and bleeding. Based on their position and the location of the bar it would provide another perspective of where the shots came from. Seemed pretty clear to me that at that point in history that it "appeared" that several shooters were involved. After weird stuff began later that day 02Oct18; in Media and police. I tried to locate that video so I could download it but I never found it. It was a long video almost 12- 20 minutes.

To this day I cant locate it.

Must have been FAKE news?

a reply to: Boadicea


When everything goes silent especially from CNN and the other gun drum beaters the event is controlled by the Feds or an entity having power. I am surprised that many concert goers are not speaking out. As a group they may know something deeper. The biggest clue would be to see how the elections go this year in Vegas as the so called "silent" majority talk among themselves yet it goes unreported and time goes on. However, if they feel that something was just not right you may see shifts in the elections in that city. Its the only clue I can provide.

Laura Loomer fizzed out and they got her discrediting herself. Any others of significance [she wasn't] ever look into it? Nah. Wheres Marilou Danley today? She could have been an OP as she her profile works the narrative. Nice clean break! That link dried up back in 2017.

So our conversations. Lets see what we dredge up from the sewer. It will typically be another OP from a foreign country slamming us for our discussion, thoughts, claims, incorrect use of grammar, punctuation, and yada yada yada. Well we are a conspiracy site and we are all crazy, hack hillbillies from dem der mountains. Yup.

Behave and just pay attention. They are easy to catch as all are trained from the same operating manual.

originally posted by: Jake56
a reply to: Boadicea


The actual morning after the shooting occurred on 02Oct18, I watched a video taken from a cell phone that at one point the fleeing group of guys / girls run into and behind a tropical themed bar venues actual bar. One girl [white-blonde] among all was shot and bleeding.

I might've seen that... the one I'm thinking of was taken from behind (east) the concert venue and running through a parking lot to the Tropicana (north of the venue).

Based on their position and the location of the bar it would provide another perspective of where the shots came from. Seemed pretty clear to me that at that point in history that it "appeared" that several shooters were involved.

I remember several videos and reports of gunfire on the east side of the venue, which is also where the airport is and the infamous JANET area. There were also at least four elevated sites identified from which someone could have fired upon that area; katty korner to the northeast of the venue, the tanks at the airport to the east of the venue, an apartment building to the southeast of the venue, and an abandoned tower of sorts to the south of the venue. And then there were the helicopters... Several of us went over the maps and locations like madmen with a fine tooth comb in an earlier thread!

After weird stuff began later that day 02Oct18; in Media and police. I tried to locate that video so I could download it but I never found it. It was a long video almost 12- 20 minutes.

Yeah... many videos and other eyewitness accounts seemed to disappear into thin air...

a reply to: Boadicea


Agree and they did. All were pulled.

originally posted by: Jake56
a reply to: Boadicea

When everything goes silent especially from CNN and the other drum drum beaters the event is controlled by the Feds or an entity having power.

Yup! I am a longtime firm believer that if the feds are involved, they're at fault -- for something if not everything!

I am surprised that many concert goers are not speaking out. As a group they may know something deeper.

And there's no doubt a reason for that. I expect the feds made it worth their while not to talk. One way or another. No doubt their phones were taken and wiped. I'm sure they've been told not to talk about what they saw/know -- perhaps even under a secret gag order. They may also have been bribed, as in "your medical bills will be paid and you'll get a pretty penny on top of that."

The biggest clue would be to see how the elections goe this year in Vegas as the so called "silent" majority talk among themselves, it goes unreported and time goes on. However, if they feel that something was just not right you may see shifts in the elections in that city.

From what I've heard from family and friends in Vegas, they know something's not right, and they don't like it. Most think that (elected) Sheriff Lombardo is acting under directions from the FBI and other fed agencies, and I agree. The elections will be interesting to say the least.

Laura Loomer fizzed out and they got her discrediting herself. Any others of significance [she wasn't] ever look into it? Nah. Wheres Marilou Danley today? She could be an OP as she fits the profile. Nice clean break! That link dried up back in 2017.

I never liked or trusted Laura Loomer. Much the same for the others that suddenly appeared out of nowhere and were suddenly the self-appointed true investigative "journalists"... yeah, right.

I really can't think of one source I trust in all this.

a reply to: MteWamp

BWAHAHAHA

Spell check police much ???

I proof read nothing... well atleast nothing on a cheesy conspiracy site..

But hey, if you can’t out logic them then be a grammar nazi.. am I right?? Lol