Trump Campaign aid says was offered Hillary emails by US government agency in May 2016

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Anti's got the air filled vanilla puffs.

Nah, that's your braincase.

It's good to know that even when you're not in my threads, you're still talking about me. The fact that you're too under the influence of your religious-like worship of Trump to even read what I post is a statement about you, not me.

a reply to: theantediluvian

It's a bit more straightforward than that.
IF this guy is telling the truth, what we know is that SOMEONE was reaching out to Trump campaign officials to get them to take the Hillary emails - could have been anyone.

However, if there was an active attempt to reach out to Trump campaign members, it shed new light on why Popadopalous, in a drunken state, may have been talking about it in June.

You would think that Mueller would be keen to follow this up... it could have been a Russian posing as US Intel, or it could have actually been US Intel.

The real question is why Mueller is not interested.

a reply to: Grambler

he claims that he was approached by an intermediary that was offering him emails from Hillary on in May 2016.

This would be a bombshell if true, as it would do two things.

First show the entire FBI narrative of the Papadopoulos story starting the investigation in July of 2016 is a lie.

Secondly and more importantly, it would mean that this government agency was not trying to stop russian interfernce, but was actively trying to setup the trump campaign, which would be unconscionable.

I think it tells us one more thing: The PTB knew by May 2016 that Trump was on a path to win and they were desperate to stop him at all costs... All the projection of an "inevitable" Hillary win was just talk. (Though it helped to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's eventual win.)

At some point, when they knew he would win, their efforts were then to weaponize the office so to speak. And what we know is probably just the very tip of the iceberg. I suspect they believed they could create the circumstances to make it appear that Trump was guilty of something, and then planned to hold it over his head during his presidency, turning him into a puppet. And I also suspect that Trump said "screw that," and instead of cowering and submitting, Trump went on the attack... because the best defense is a good offense. Trump knows he's not an angel, and Trump knows that everyone knows it, so airing his dirty laundry is not the threat to him that it would be to most people. Especially when his enemies have to resort to dragging out a tawdry affair with a porn star who doesn't even have the character or integrity to honor her written contracts. But we know how the Feds love to threaten and bully and intimidate! At this point, that's pretty much all they've got.

And if the scuttlebutt is true, then Trump knew what to expect going in... If knowledge is power, the Trump was armed and dangerous from the gitgo.

They certainly didn't know. They probably didn't even expect.

It was an "insurance policy" . Just in case.

It all fits. Comey, Clapper, and Brennan have all been caught lying about various aspects of why they were monitoring the Trump campaign and when it started. (And some of those lies were made under oath before congressional committees.)
Rosentstein was refusing to share documents that would shed light on the investigation, and only did so after the House intelligence committee threatened to impeach him for it. Everything suggests the investigation is not aboveboard.

It's only a matter of time before we find out that "Guccifer 2.0" was a CIA agent.

Most excellent thread creations by you.

Listening to levin last nite it sounds like the entire mueller appointment illegality is also coming to the light at the same time. Levin laid out a great case as to why and how t.s. ellis3 could end the entire mess in one swing. Simply put no special council can be legally appointed with an open ended scope without having been voted by the gov. and signed off by potus. just as every other cabinet appointment. In other words to been appointed in the manner that mueller was his powers could only be specific ones just as scotus has ruled in 88'.

Muellers authority is illegal and unconstitutional.

a reply to: UKTruth

However, if there was an active attempt to reach out to Trump campaign members, it shed new light on why Popadopalous, in a drunken state, may have been talking about it in June.

I don't think so. This was a pretty big deal for Papadopoulos. From what I've gathered, the timeline is this:

March 14, 2016 - Papadopoulos meets Misfud for the first time in Rome. Both men were living in London at the time. Papadopoulos tells Misfud that he's expecting to become a Trump FP advisor based on earlier conversations with the campaign. Misfud tells him that he's got these high level connections to Russia.

March 21, 2016 - Papadopoulos is officially named as a part of the FP advisory committee.

March 24, 2016 - Back in London, the men meet again. Misfud brings along a "very attractive" 30 year-old Russian woman, "Olga Vinogradova"/Olga Polonskaya. Papadopoulos says Misfud introduced her as Putin's niece. (he denied that to the media) Whatever the case, there are email exchanges in which Olga tells GP that she can arrange meetings with top level Russian officials. The pair also told Papadopoulos that they would introduce him to the Russian ambassador to the UK. (which never happened)

Papadopoulos emails Clovis et al about the meetings.

March 31, 2016 - Papadopoulos goes to DC and attends the campaign meeting where he announces that he's got connections that can be used to setup these high level meetings.

April 10-11, 2016 - On these and other dates, emails were exchanged by the trio. Have you read the statement of offense for GP? It's got excerpts of emails:

b. On or about April 10, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS emailed the Female Russian Nation, who responded the next day, on or about April 11, 2016, that she "would be very pleased to support your initiatives between our two countries." Defendant PAPADOPOULOS then asked the Female Russian National, in an email cc'ing the Professor, about setting up "a potential foreign policy trip to Russia."

c. The Professor responded to defendant PAPADOPOULOS's email later that day, on or about April 11, 2016: "This is alrady been agreed. I am flying to Moscow on the 18th for a Valdai meeting, plus other meetings at the Duma." The Duma is a Russian government legislative assembly.

d. The Female Russian National responded: "I have already alerted my personal links to our conversation and your request.... As mentioned we are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump. The Russian Federation would love to welcome him once his candiature would be officially announced."

11. On or about April 18, 2016, the Professor introduced defendant PAPADOPOULOS over email to an individual in Moscow (the "Russian MFA Connection") who told defendant PAPADOPOULOS he had connections to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs ("MFA"). The MFA is the executive entity in Russia responsible for Russian foreign relations. Over the next several weeks, defendant PAPADOPOULOS and the Russian MFA Connection had multiple conversations over Skype and email about setting "the groundwork" for a "potential" meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials.

All of the detail is deliberately left out by people trying to diminish the significance of the events. To hear many Trump supporters in the media talk, GP ran into a some random who said he heard a rumor, got drunk a month or two later and said something inconsequential and all been used as an excuse to spy on Trump.

This was a months long, ongoing thing. Anyway, GP emails Clovis et al to keep them abreast of this.

April 26, 2016 - Misfud is back from Russia and he and GP meet for breakfast at a hotel in London. It was at this meeting that Misfud tells him that "they have dirt on her" "the Russians had emails of Clinton" "thousands of emails".

The communications continued (with Misfud, the "MFA Connection" etc):

May 13, 2016 - In one of the emails from Misfud, he states, "We will continue to liaise through you with the Russian counterparts in terms of what is needed for a high level meeting of Mr. Trump with the Russian Federation."

May 14 & 21, 2016 - He's emailing Clovis and others about all this and including some of the emails he gotten from the "MFA connection"

This continues like this well into June, July and finally in August we have Clovis telling him that he would "would encourage" Papadopoulos to "make the trip, if feasible."

Now mind you, it was in MAY, in the heat of all this that Papadopoulos encounters Downer at this London bar and brings up the Misfud claim.

I think if you're being objective, you'll see that it's not really plausible that he was talking about this other thing with Caputo that he almost certainly wouldn't even have known about. You should also see how well developed this whole thing was. This wasn't a single meeting or two meetings in which GP picked up some rumor. There's a whole thing going on here which to me looks like Russian intel working GP.

You would think that Mueller would be keen to follow this up... it could have been a Russian posing as US Intel, or it could have actually been US Intel.

The real question is why Mueller is not interested.

Not sure why you're concluding that this hasn't been followed up on, let alone that it was because of a lack of interest. Caputo has been interviewed by the Mueller team and I'm sure that named names then and that they've followed up.

What people don't seem to keep in mind is that the Mueller team is very radio silent. Like I've reminded people re the Cohen influence peddling — it wasn't until six months after they'd interviewed these banks and only after the SAR was leaked by the FinCEN agent, that any of that came to the public attention.

The main ways we find out something is happening is because somebody gets called in for an interview and tells people (that's how I know Caputo was interviewed), gets stopped at an airport, through indictments/court actions. Assuming that Caputo told them what he said to Cavuto, I assume they looked into it.

Kudos for antedilluvian for his thread in this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Based on the reporting in that article, I am pretty sure this story in the OP is not nefarious at all, and is either caputo having a misunderstanding, or intentionally lying to discredit the intel agencies or benefit himself.

a reply to: Grambler

You might want to update your post: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just sayin'

a reply to: toysforadults

This latest Dan Bongino podcast is very insightful. Includes info on UK connections too.

a reply to: Grambler


This is what a few of us have been saying all along:

The Deep State tried and succeeded in tanking Hillary's campaign in order to get the groomed boy elected. How much more proof do we need, beside following the money, looking at his Rothschild appointees, looking at the actions of the FBI and this unknown agency that helped him get elected... on and on and on, it's all been said here and conveniently ignored.

With the undeniable fact that the FBI hurt Hillary's chances of winning by stating they were re-opening an investigation into her 11 days before the election, and they've now been exposed for covering up an investigation into Trump at the very same time - for someone whose glasses are not painted any color -- is there any doubt who was picked and elected by the Deep State?

a reply to: Kharron

This is a nice theory but no one puts HIllary in a corner. She ran a horrible campaign and they thought there was no way to lose. She is very very much part of what you would call the Deep State in this country.

That's the point, both sides are Deep State; and Hillary played her role well until it was time for her to step down. Only she did not know it was her role not to win, she thought she had it made.

"I knew they weren't going to let me win." -HRC, the night she lost.

As if people let candidates win. The powers that be pick candidates, and if Hillary won, it would have been because they picked her, not because the people wanted her. Same thing with this guy and I know you support him, but he is not a good guy and he's a made man and he's just another implant, as an increasing amount of evidence would show; not counting the money ties with the Rothschild family dating back decades to Resorts International, when his grooming began.

When we have a president who outlaws lobbying, tells all American companies who build overseas that they will now pay an import tax like any other foreign company, when term limits are in place for all representatives, when people are not having to stand up to defend the constitution all the time - then and only then will I think that we have a president who is not an implant.

Until then, we're just arguing with each over people nobody wanted in the first place.

When he keeps his promise and puts Hillary behind bars, I may start thinking otherwise, but until that happens they are on the same side.

a reply to: Grambler

Sounds like someone trying to help the Trump campaign rather than the opposite.