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originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: intrptr
Ouch. 80 mph, train cars tumbled off the train trestle onto a crowded freeway, during rush hour.
80 MPH??
State law mandates a maximum of 50 MPH for all trains in Washington St.
WSDOT
(UTC) in Washington state generally has the authority to set speed limits at all grade crossings in unincorporated areas and in all cities, except those where populations are greater than 100,000 (such as Seattle, Tacoma, or Vancouver, WA). However, federal regulations preempt the state and cities from setting speed limits except where unique local safety conditions exist. As a result, the UTC can set speed limits only where such conditions warrant a deviation from Federal Railroad Administration track safety standards.
This is not a new line nor a new train. It was the first time Cascade used the interstate 5 route.
originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: xuenchen
Did I hear correctly that this is a new line and this was the first run? Did they not do a trial run with an empty train?
This is awful! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved.
A notice on the Washington State Department of Transportation's website before the crash said that Monday was the first day for Amtrak's Cascades train to use the route along I-5.
CNBC
President Donald Trump said in a tweet that the accident "shows more than ever why our soon to be submitted infrastructure plan must be approved quickly."
The president tweeted a second time, a few minutes later, saying his "thoughts and prayers" are with those in DuPont. He thanked the first responders to the accident.
originally posted by: Devino
This is not a new line nor a new train. It was the first time Cascade used the interstate 5 route.
originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: xuenchen
Did I hear correctly that this is a new line and this was the first run? Did they not do a trial run with an empty train?
This is awful! My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved.
A notice on the Washington State Department of Transportation's website before the crash said that Monday was the first day for Amtrak's Cascades train to use the route along I-5.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: jhn7537
I saw some stories on Twitter about Antifa pouring cement on the tracks....I'm looking into deeper. I hope its not true...
Got t be careful about this - speculation I think. I heard that there was twitter activity that called for this beforer it happened... but I can't find the posts...
I don't know. They do maintain the tracks regularly and I don't think that this is the first time a train went through there at 80MPH. I have been down that interstate many times and have seen freight/container trains using those tracks yet I can't imagine they would go 80MPH.
originally posted by: Martin75
Thank you for the clarification. That makes more sense.
So has a train ever driven this route that fast? Surely they did test runs.
originally posted by: Devino
This is not a new line nor a new train. It was the first time Cascade used the interstate 5 route.
A notice on the Washington State Department of Transportation's website before the crash said that Monday was the first day for Amtrak's Cascades train to use the route along I-5.
Yes, I believe Cascade is an Amtrak passenger train, not freight.
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: Devino
This is not a new line nor a new train. It was the first time Cascade used the interstate 5 route.
A notice on the Washington State Department of Transportation's website before the crash said that Monday was the first day for Amtrak's Cascades train to use the route along I-5.
That's for passenger service, it had done the run already as given in the video by a channel reporter who was on the VIP run. I think he mentioned passing over that bridge at a reasonable speed with nothing untoward.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: jhn7537
Antifa likes the liberal northwest.
originally posted by: Devino
I don't know. They do maintain the tracks regularly and I don't think that this is the first time a train went through there at 80MPH. I have been down that interstate many times and have seen freight/container trains using those tracks yet I can't imagine they would go 80MPH.
originally posted by: Martin75
Thank you for the clarification. That makes more sense.
So has a train ever driven this route that fast? Surely they did test runs.
Kiro FB
Alternate routes to avoid I-5 train derailment crash near Lacey.
PLEASE SHARE with your friends who drive in the area.
• Exit I-5 at HWY 7 in Tacoma • Exit HWY 512 in Lakewood or Yelm • Exit Hwy 7 to HWY 507 is an option, but there's major backup
More with video
Again your best alternate around the closure of SB I-5 in Dupont: EXIT I-5 AT HWY 16 THROUGH GIG HARBOR TO PORT ORCHARD, EXIT TO HWY 3, HEAD SOUTH TO SHELTON, EXIT HWY 101 TO OLYMPIA TO I-5
“All of a sudden, we felt this rocking and creaking noise, and then all of a sudden it felt like we were heading down a hill, and the next thing that we know we’re being slammed into the front of our seats and the windows are breaking,” Chris Karnes, a passenger
The mayor of a city near the scene of Monday’s deadly train crash in Washington state warned earlier this month that the start of high-speed service was bound to end in disaster.
During a Dec. 4 meeting of the Lakewood City Council, Mayor Don Anderson blasted plans by the Washington State Department of Transportation to let Amtrak trains travel through the city at up to 79 mph without first installing overpasses or other means of keeping motor vehicles and pedestrians away from the tracks.
“Come back when there is that accident, and try to justify not putting in those safety enhancements, or you can go back now and advocate for the money to do it, because this project was never needed and endangers our citizens,” Anderson said, according to video posted online by KOMO Radio.