Who's helping North Korea?

I think that NK military is better than we are lead to believe.
I think they have tech that nobody knows anything about.
I think they hide it all far far underground.

Could it be?

The problem is not Kim Jong-un. The problem is the North Korean people. Every country that advances in technological development the people will eventually demand democracy over authoritarianism.

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a reply to: Agit8dChop

I don't buy the idea that Trump has pushed North Korea into these tests and bravado.

Really? The pentagon is behind the invasion, occupation and blockade of Korea since the 1950s.
Maintaining a deep port, harbor and standing armies on the under belly of the Asian continent is strategically most important, from a geo strategic, military perspective.

The propaganda arm has you confused and wondering if its Trump or Kim, Korea or Asia, Defense or WMD.

a reply to: eisegesis

So McCartney and Lennon are also part of the hidden hand fraternity?

a reply to: Bluntone22

I tend to feel that there are many countries / Companies who have an interest to trade certain thing NK has (like rare earth metals) for something NK wants/ needs

And given the level of sanctions, these trades have to be done by smugglers. There are enablers, those who transport and those who make the exchange.

Simply enjoy yourself by watching a disconcerting moving picture: The blacklist and you have some pretty good idea of the what kind of category.

My gut tells me the cash from the Iranian deal got filtered to them, along with the technological know how.

Someone had to finance it.

The mainstream media,doing their jobs to promote socialism,nothing more then scare tatics,and not unlike a manure pile the flies don't venture far from it

Park 3 carrier groups off the coast and intercept any heading to harbor in NK. Oh yeah, they are already there.

If they are still able to get supplies and parts, it's China's fault.

Fred.

Russia. The missile technology they've suddenly got either came from Russia or Ukraine.

And of those two, the one who could get away with the risk of being caught is Russia.

originally posted by: Painterz
Russia. The missile technology they've suddenly got either came from Russia or Ukraine.

And of those two, the one who could get away with the risk of being caught is Russia.

Yup. And not only the tech, but actual hardware, according to most speculation.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Aliens

That missile carrying truck looks to be of Chinese origin.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

i think to you, you feel they are incapable of advancing because of the propaganda you have been fed.

Someone raised a good point- nobody is bringing in hardware overseas without us knowing about it, we've got the water brimming with navy.

Although with what I've read about our navy lately, maybe they're just taking bribes to let cargo ships in.
Their trucks are running on gassified wood- they don't have fuel to run vehicles let alone manufacture the precise components needed for an ICBM.
Someone is providing them with parts and info- and the parts aren't small.
If they're not coming by sea, they're coming by land- which means either they're crossing the DMZ from south korea, or coming in from china- possibly from Russia, but there's no way china wouldn't know about it.

Of course, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find our very own CIA supplying them, either.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Agit8dChop

How did The Beatles move from this

To this

In under 4 years. The answer is " Progress "

After Paul McCartney died, his replacement was far more creative..

Y'all do know that there is an international black market for almost anything, right?

Cash on the barrel-head, and walk out the door with...pretty much anything.

North Korea may be selling rare earths, or other raw materials, through a cut out, and then using those proceeds to shop. There are black markets everywhere.

As for the tech leaps, such as they are, most if not all of it, may be found on the interwebs. 1960-70's missile technology isn't that hard to replicate. Nor are the nukes. Though, supposedly, the tech for the nukes is rather hard to get--oh, right, that black market thingee.

IMHO, and that's all it is, many of you are over thinking it.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

RUSSIA! Everyone knows that. Go check it out. Even the BBC has reported it.

It is Putin arming NK by proxy. NK are a proxy nuclear power for Putin.

I think they even found a German connection to the missile parts?

Money speaks great German, Russian and Korean, Geld spricht gut Deutsch, Russisch und Koreanisch, Деньги говорят на немецком, русском и корейском языках, 돈은 훌륭한 독일어, 러시아어 및 한국어를 구사합니다.

Russian tech ...... made available through Ukraine (knowingly,or not!??) ..... then further developed for NK with a lot of help from Iranian nuclear boffins.

I would put my left nut on Russia being NKs "right hand man" if the present situation escalates. China may help also, but IMO they've had enough of his antics too.
I don't have anything against Russia ..... but they pretty much fought NKs air war during the last conflict with US.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
There has been a dramatic change in North Korea's position and technological levels this past year.

So who's shipping them the missiles?
Who's running their propaganda?
Who's telling them to shoot of these missiles and drag the US a little closer?

CIA? China? Russia? UK?

Very important question, should really be asked more often.

There are some stories about a links to the Ukraine. A North Korean spy was caputured there recently, according to an NYT article:
www.nytimes.com...
Its probable they were successful in getting their hands on some relevant technology there.

And theres the Iranian connection of course. Israel has been alluding to Iranian North Korean ties for some time now and even President Trump tweeted as much back in September:
www.haaretz.com...
www.al-monitor.com...

IMO the Iranian - North Korean cooperation will proof to be much more destabilizing in the long run than North Koreas bomb itself.