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originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: intrptr
We are talking about at sports venues such as the NFL. Since this seems to be the issue at hand.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: MrPitts
Dale Jr. just sided with the kneeling players, he's the most popular driver in NASCAR.
originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: intrptr
No I brought up a point in time during the NFL, which happened to be during riots. The NFL just didn't start yesterday.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: KonquestAbySS
When Rodney King was brutally beaten by the white man, did you see anyone in the NFL kneel during the national anthem? How about the Watts riot?
The riots were the protest.
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that the Watts riots (1965) were in response to the Rodney Glen King beating which ocurred approximately 26 years later in 1991.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Wasn’t to offend people the point of kneeling anyways? They got exactly what they wanted.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Wasn’t to offend people the point of kneeling anyways? They got exactly what they wanted.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Wasn’t to offend people the point of kneeling anyways? They got exactly what they wanted.
Their biggest mistake, in my opinion, is that they thought too highly of themselves and assumed that their "celebrity" would protect them from any blowback.
originally posted by: FauxMulder
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Wasn’t to offend people the point of kneeling anyways? They got exactly what they wanted.
Kapernick said the point was to protest and bring attention to police brutality. It had the opposite effect as no one is now talking about that. If the intention was to offend to bring attention, all they have done is muddy the issue to the point that it is not even being discussed.
Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett said last week that it would take a white player to kneel for the national anthem “to really get things changed.” Seth DeValve is testing that belief. The second-year Browns tight end knelt for “The Star-Spangled Banner” during Monday’s game in Cleveland against the Giants, part of a circle of a dozen players who bowed their heads in silent protest. They were flanked by several more teammates who stood and put their hands on the kneelers’ shoulders. DeValve is the first white player to join the movement started by Colin Kaepernick, who’s currently not in the league. The Eagles’ Chris Long stood with his hand on a teammate’s kneeling shoulder last week.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 35Foxtrot
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that the Watts riots (1965) were in response to the Rodney Glen King beating which ocurred approximately 26 years later in 1991.
Of course not. What is true its that every riot, Watts, Rodney King, Ferguson, Freddie Grey always erupts behind police abuse of civil authority. The same trigger, the same underlying cause.
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: FauxMulder
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Wasn’t to offend people the point of kneeling anyways? They got exactly what they wanted.
Kapernick said the point was to protest and bring attention to police brutality. It had the opposite effect as no one is now talking about that. If the intention was to offend to bring attention, all they have done is muddy the issue to the point that it is not even being discussed.
I’m not sure how kneeling does anything beyond bringing attention to oneself. I’m not sure he thought it out. Maybe he should have used his platform to discuss the facts about his concerns.