You blinked and missed it. They redfined nationalism as Racists and Nazis.

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Who2Trust

Explain please

I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Here it comes.,

For eight years of revisionist language and ignoring TERRORISM, and screaming you can't judge an entire group of people by the actions of the few(muslims).

It only took a few months to blame the entire group for the actions of the one(charlottesville).

EPIC hypocrisy.

Charlottesville was more than just ONE GUY. It was several thousand White Supremacists organized as a show of force, to prove they could "step off the internet and occupy physical space," chanting "Jews will not replace us" and other racially offensive nonsense. One of them killed a woman in cold blood, and injured several others. The murder was captured on film for any who doubt this.

Then, the president, who like it or not is seen as the top of the GOP pyramid, screws the pooch big time by suggesting both sides were equally to blame, which is actually starting to erode is own base, who I thought would NEVER turn on him.

Wow, how dare anyone we dislike try and occupy physical space. How terrible.

On your other points - it was one POS who carried out the murder.

Oh and the president was spot on. It WAS both sides.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Wow, how dare anyone we dislike try and occupy physical space. How terrible.

Nope. Not terrible at all. We all occupy physical space. My point is that this protest was organized by White Supremacists for White Supremacists, and they showed up en masse. This wasn't a case where a few straggling white supremacists showed up alongside a bunch of regular folk. It was designed to be a show of force among the White Nationalist Movement, and that's EXACTLY what it was.

On your other points - it was one POS who carried out the murder.

Yep.

Oh and the president was spot on. It WAS both sides.

The left side of this event was comprised of a wide variety of different characters. The violence Friday night got regular, everyday citizens out of their houses in masse. Video clearly shows locals residents and students in large numbers. Antifa was there, yes. They did their usual violent, reactionary routine.

But when one side is almost entirely composed of people spouting hate, and the other is mostly regular folks, it's a bit disingenuous to suggest there is a moral equivalence, especially when someone on the White Supremacy side plowed his car into a intersection crowded with innocent people who weren't engaged in any violence whatsoever.

originally posted by: Hippyfrog
a reply to: pavil

Isn't that the whole point. Letting someone one else have a different idea from you without the need to force them to conform to your values and ideas.

That won't work as one view will always come first. If you deal with people who believe their view is better for whatever reason, then you can't mix with others. I now that most people want us all to sit with flowers in our hair hugging each other but that is totally unrealistic and unnatural.
Your sentence above didn't conjure up nasty white people who don't let others do what they like.

Unfortunately for you it conjured up every immigrant who wants the country they decided to live in to change for them, instead of being all hippy and let us be ourselves.

This tolerance BS must work both ways or it won't work at all. Shouting 'death to cracka's' isn't tolerant. there is a whole continent where people could go if they don't like whites. It's called africa. But it's a s4ithole.

originally posted by: Hippyfrog
a reply to: intrptr

A concede the point but dont think it invalidates the premise.

The premise of race based on skin color and demographics is bigoted.

We are the Human Species, this isn't a race.

a reply to: Hippyfrog

Globalists?
Nationalist?
Racists?
Nazis?

Identity Politics much?

Curious...I hate Nazi's and Racists and I have deep love of my country...those two positions compliment one another.

Am I a nationalist or globalist?

I think countries like Russia and China are working hard to weaken the USA on the world stage.

Trump and his supporters like Putin? Does that make me a Nationalist? Does that make them Globalists?

All very confusing...

I thought love of country was good?
Loving Russia interfering with US elections and interests bad?
Nazi's and Hate groups suck?

Curious how you sort the baskets..

a reply to: neo96

So you condone it or not is the question you dodged by the way. The rational gets stars, but the reality of your previous statement is sick despite how beautiful or correct the reasoning behind it may be. You don't blow up a school to kill 100 terrorists inside, even if it's just 1 lost child.

That's what's dumb. You are angry over 'hypocrisy' so you take a side and act hypocritical to the other as the 'correct response' to hypocrisy? That's sick.

a reply to: Hippyfrog

Nah, they tried, but no one bought it. See the friday poll from Marist.

The media is creating a cocoon. If you watch it, you'll come away thinking everyone hates Trump, everyone who supports him supports white supremacists, everyone wants these statues removed, and everyone wants Trump impeached.

All of this is true to one subset of people, hardcore liberals. Everyone else sees through the BS. It's really an interesting phenomenon, watching them create a false reality and push it as far as they can. More interesting is watching the people who don't buy into their fake reality. When they watch, their emotions are torn as the picture they see painted doesn't mix with the reality they're living, so you get some interesting reactions. I've even noticed these reactions in myself when I sit down and watch.

In fact, these crazy liberals think that if they can get #trumpresign to trend long enough on twitter, they'll achieve their goal. They have no idea how the real world works.

a reply to: Hippyfrog

The Globalists and Obama wants to take over the world and enslave every nation under Corporate Socialism Oligarchy. Of course Nationalism would be a threat, it's too hard to control nation state. We need one dictatorial law to be streamline across the board and one Oligarchy Constitution of the elites for all.

a reply to: Hippyfrog

Amen to that. Races are inherently different, and that's not a bad thing. We should work together as humans to improve one another, to strive to better ourselves when we see our own weakness and sin.

Here's a cool article regarding race and genetics:
time.com...

a reply to: Hippyfrog

Now the globalists have co-oped the term nationalist so that if your against their global agendas you can instantly be labeled a racist and discounted. Much in the way the words "Conspiracy theorist" has been used to shut down complex thought and analysis.

no they haven't, that's down to your zero education, no iq or your obvious lack of knowledge on pretty much anything.
trumps a globalist and trying to say he isn't while blaming an imaginary foe for his new hotel in saudi arabia is foolish.

a reply to: Hippyfrog

That's because democrats, and even RINOs want us to give up American sovereignty so that the UN, or some other world power can control the U.S. and it's people. Similar to how the EU was formed, and how it has been and is being used now to force countries that don't want to be controlled by the EU, to abide by the EU.

i know that many in the left either don't know it, or they ignore it. But Gandhi was a "national socialist". Nationalism in itself is not racist, it is just the belief that each country should be able to decide it's future and how their citizens should live, etc.

The majority of democrats and RINOs like McCain, Paul Ryan, etc are all in favor of the globalist take over and control of the U.S.

99 percent of nationalism in america is followed by 'n-word' and filthy jew while flying nazi flags. may have something to do with it. that said i love the renaissance fair and greek festival. not much for st patricks as i dont drink much

Reverse psychology folks.

If you want to end free speech, you have to turn the majority of people against it. How do you do that? By convincing them that free speech is dangerous. Sound familiar?

a reply to: Hippyfrog

Nah, they just called WHITE nationalism what it actually is.