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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
And female genital mutilation? Child Brides? Homophobia? Half of all British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal. Do these factor into your obscurantist view of the Muslim faith?
I am talking about Muslims in the UK, genital mutilation is illegal and quite rightly, end of.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Discotech
In fact, it is more stupid and more dangerous than all of the other religions. I'm sorry but not all religions are alike.
I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, but I do think a religion that touts itself as the final religion, promotes jihad, and promises paradise and a bevy of virgins for martyrs will naturally incentivize terrorism.
I would love to be proven wrong. Try criticizing Islam.
originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: Wide-Eyes
I never said they were the same but all things considered they are of a similar act of cutting up another persons genitals, without their consent due to religious reasons.
It's the same as comparing a slow tortuous death to quick painless death, they are both death, if you wish quibble over semantics then that it your prerogative, I didn't know we had to compare every thing like for like now.
As an Agnostic I consider them all equally dangerous and all absurd, but it is NOT my place to tell people what they should or should not believe because then I would be a dictator and it is after all only an opinion that they are all incorrect.
How about we make it illegal to teach ANY religion to anyone under the age of consent ? I'm quite sure that would assist in stopping extremist views from developing in the minds of the young, but then again all the other precious religions would suffer as a consequence and we can't have that now can we ?
"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally butchered facing the crucifix. According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia. In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their victims alive..."
originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: Wide-Eyes
Really ? Does it matter how someone dies ? Once they're dead, they're dead, doesn't matter how they died, they're dead, just because they died slow and painfully doesn't mean they're going to be more dead than if they died instantly.
Dead is dead
Much like needlessly giving somebody a circumcision for religious reason is still mutilation
I'm curious if the Jewish faith decided due to religious reasons, that all women have part of their breasts removed, would you be cool with this ? Or would you call it for what it is, needless mutilation
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
In that case I wish you a nice long slow painful death.