interdimensional or extraterrestrial?

a reply to: Alpharosso

interdimensional aliens
ok

a reply to: humanoidlord

Just saying Trump seems like someone who would expose the UFO phenomenon if there is a government cover-up.

a reply to: humanoidlord

Pretty much. Although many of the theories flying around likely have at least a grain of truth to them, I suspect the real truth isn't what any of us think it might be

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I don't buy that it could all be military. Service men and women are terrible at keeping secrets. They might only tell their spouse, or bf, or a letter upon death, or whatever. From all the alledged sightings over the years there would have been ALOT of people involved (a lot of low level military and civilian personnel as well). I don't really think they could ALL do it. BUT the military explanation doesn't account for ALL the sightings. Sure the rest of the stuff could be untrue. But some of it might be real.

originally posted by: SgtEsquire
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I don't buy that it could all be military. Service men and women are terrible at keeping secrets.

Really? How does the interstage on H-bombs work? What is its purpose? Thousands of people have worked on it for decades and there is NO open description in literature, hints, or knowledge of the materials or technological or design principles. Its existence is barely acknowledged.

They might only tell their spouse, or bf, or a letter upon death, or whatever. From all the alledged sightings over the years there would have been ALOT of people involved (a lot of low level military and civilian personnel as well).

And most of them don't correlate what they did with "UFO reports". They don't pay attention to those. They were doing rocket launches or flight tests, or operations or working on a widget for a X,Y,Z box whose purpose is beyond their need to know.

a reply to: mbkennel

Has the level of interest in the interstate H-Bombs been the same as the world wide level of interest as there is in E-T? Any Movies, amature and professional Investigations, congressional investigations? You get the idea.

Also the fact that H-Bombs have been confirmed, while ET or ET vehicles is telling of itself.

All I'm saying is I don't think that all ET stuff is the military alone. I'm not saying it's ET either. Could be some rare weather event or something.

a reply to: WeRpeons

yeah but to me you mentioning him was a bir ramdom

a reply to: vlawde

ok

Perhaps EXOVERSAL ....it could happen in multiple universes

It's always the same old, same old.

I will run with the theory we know jack about how things work and are infants. Nothing has to be inter dimensional that knows ALL of the physics of our reality and can use it. To us things would appear to just be there and then vanish. When in fact we can't comprehend it's still actually there. Due to our limited biology we just aren't, can't perceive it altho some people can get glimpses. And Yes our physical biology limits what we are able to perceive.

So....this leaves me convinced things are real and within our 3D world alongside of us and have been for as long as we can remember. When they want to be seen they are, and when they don't they are using physics in ways we haven't learned to yet because our starting premises are faulty.

Some will argue this endlessly but seriously we know jack squat about how to manipulate matter or any other parts of our physical world. We're children looking at grownups wondering how did THAT happen. Sheesh!

Interdimensional? Hahahahahahaha! NO.
YMMV

Don't forget cryptoterrestrial

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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a reply to: humanoidlord

both.

Why is erf always considered limited to the physical. Why hadn't anyone ever considered that the erf needs a balance to all its perfect goodness. Maybe the erf isn't as fragile and limited as people think. Erf is bad ass. I would get with erf if i were you guys, maybe see if it knows any other planets?

I say they are demonic.
From the pits of hell.

a reply to: humanoidlord


Time travelling humans is more plausible than extraterrestrial beings.
The distances are too vast, the logistics are beyond comprehension, the fleeting lifespans of civilisations plus a hundred other arguements point toward them being 'not' extraterrestrial in origin.

However, from the viewpoint of time travel, some small questions can be explained.
'Greys', in my mind, represent what an evolved human may well look like in another 400 million years. Or less.
The apparant 'secrecy' with which UFOs conduct themselves could be because of the unwillingness to interfere with the timeline of human progression, for obvious reasons.

I dunno, just seems unlikely that an advanced species from another world would even be capable of maintaining deep space operations involving espionage and some unknown agenda, let alone pump the extraordinary amount of time, money and resources into such an endeavour with very little reward.
Time travelling humans however, would see a lot of benefit in travelling back to ancient times. So long as they didn't majorly disrupt the history of their own development.

So not interdimensional nor extraterrestrial. Just plain Human. From Earth.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: humanoidlord


Time travelling humans is more plausible than extraterrestrial beings.
The distances are too vast, the logistics are beyond comprehension, the fleeting lifespans of civilisations plus a hundred other arguements point toward them being 'not' extraterrestrial in origin.

However, from the viewpoint of time travel, some small questions can be explained.
'Greys', in my mind, represent what an evolved human may well look like in another 400 million years. Or less.
The apparant 'secrecy' with which UFOs conduct themselves could be because of the unwillingness to interfere with the timeline of human progression, for obvious reasons.

I dunno, just seems unlikely that an advanced species from another world would even be capable of maintaining deep space operations involving espionage and some unknown agenda, let alone pump the extraordinary amount of time, money and resources into such an endeavour with very little reward.
Time travelling humans however, would see a lot of benefit in travelling back to ancient times. So long as they didn't majorly disrupt the history of their own development.

So not interdimensional nor extraterrestrial. Just plain Human. From Earth.

Yep just the very basic part of all humans included at birth from the first to the last. Plain as can be.

originally posted by: Caver78
It's always the same old, same old.

I will run with the theory we know jack about how things work and are infants. Nothing has to be inter dimensional that knows ALL of the physics of our reality and can use it. To us things would appear to just be there and then vanish. When in fact we can't comprehend it's still actually there. Due to our limited biology we just aren't, can't perceive it altho some people can get glimpses. And Yes our physical biology limits what we are able to perceive.

So....this leaves me convinced things are real and within our 3D world alongside of us and have been for as long as we can remember. When they want to be seen they are, and when they don't they are using physics in ways we haven't learned to yet because our starting premises are faulty.

Some will argue this endlessly but seriously we know jack squat about how to manipulate matter or any other parts of our physical world. We're children looking at grownups wondering how did THAT happen. Sheesh!

Interdimensional? Hahahahahahaha! NO.
YMMV

your so dead on especially about starting premises being faulty. The one who teaches without learning is the source of wisdom. because He never learned he never built on anything other than that which is available to us all. He's at the bottom cause is always the bottom and that's where he stays.

First of all, I think some Ufos and aliens are real, but a lot of scams and fakes are out there too, so which are real and which are not will be difficult to know, even if we face them ourself !

The truth is probably to complex for most/all humans to understand, I used to look forward to meet some of them one day, but lately I changed my mind, I really do doubt deep in my heart, that it will be any good to open the "box", not only because of maybe evil agendas, but also because the "spirituel" movements are unpredictable and feels out of control.

Over time things can maybe change, if we get wiser with more knowledge about life.

On the other hand, I think we are close to open the "box", not because we are "ready", but because a lot of things on earth are going to # up the hard way soon, among this chaos the "box" will open.

Future will come for sure

a reply to: humanoidlord

What do you consider Mind to be?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: humanoidlord

What do you consider Mind to be?

chain of though drawing from inspiration being one source.