Clinton Ahead 14 Points in WSJ/NBC Poll

originally posted by: Willtell

Remember my many posts where I said Trump will make Hillary look like Joan of Arc

He’s finally succeeded in doing that

Hopefully before they try to burn her at the stake, they will just try to melt her with a bucket of water. It would have a smaller carbon footprint. The environment matters.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Water kills the devil?
Or was Trump confused?

Clinton Ahead 14 Points in WSJ/NBC Poll

Self explanatory . Those are the WSJ's numbers. They can do what they want with em

edit on 10/10/16 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)

a reply to: Willtell

Well , I for one Do Not Believe this particular Election is Somehow " Fixed " , that is just a Erroneous Assumption . The American People have Always Controlled their Political Destiny Unless some have Sold their Souls to the Devil in Return for Monetary Gain . Elections Can be Rigged , and Voter Fraud is usually the Means to that End , but in this Case it will be Very Hard to Bribe Over 80 Million Americans who are Considering Voting for Mr. Trump .

a reply to: Phage

Water melts witches (Wizard of Oz), Joan of Arc was burned at the stake. I don't think fire or water does much to the Devil.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Donny said she's the devil. So, no dice then.

He tried his rally cries. Work great at his rallies. Not so much with a national audience watching a debate. Not so great if you want to expand your base. Because everyone has already heard that rap.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

What about Holy Water?

Billy Bush Suspended From ‘Today’ After Lewd Trump Tape Scandal

Look at this. This poor guy loses his job because of Trump's antics

The days of Billy Bush’s life are rapidly going from bad to worse. Bush, the first cousin of President George W. Bush and former Florida governor Jeb Bush, has been indefinitely suspended from the third hour of the Today show, NBC’s venerable morning franchise that he officially joined as a co-anchor a mere two months ago—disciplinary action for his role in a crude and sexist conversation he had with Donald Trump 11 years ago when he was hosting Access Hollywood.

Bush’s suspension was announced Sunday night by Noah Oppenheim, senior vice president in charge of Today, in a “Dear TODAY family” memo to the staff.

She is even up +7 Rasmussen Reports and Trump is only up +3 on the LATimes lol
realclearpolitics

a reply to: Phage

Depends who is doing the polling.
It's not beyond the realms of fiction to put out false polling results to effect the minds of would be Trump voters.

originally posted by: jellyrev
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

-abe lincoln lol

That quote perfectly sums up Trumps entire campaign.

I believe the polls to a certain degree but Trump is hard to poll. He is going to do quite well, likely still lose but it will shock people. He is pulling people like myself who never vote. I also never get polled. Even if I did I would either say I supported Hillary or just hang up depending on what I was doing at the time.

I would never say I supported Trump in a poll. It's my way of s***ing on their system. I even signed up for Hillary's emails to gauge what they are up to. No substance just begging for money. Trump does the same thing, I get his text. I'm fairly intelligent, college degree, good income, both me an my wife. We are both voting for Trump.

What I really find strange is they keep saying his voters lack a college degree but everyone I have talked to with a college education is voting for him. Even people with advanced degrees. They are saying Hillary has that demographic but that is not what I have observed. Maybe that is the case big picture but from my sample no way. She is not getting their vote.

Really looking forward to seeing how this shakes out. Just gauging the climate of the country I honestly believe many say they would not vote for him when they actually would. Not so much that they like Trump, just to give a middle finger to it all.

I will kindly remind you of what the talking heads said about trump during the gop nom process.

originally posted by: southbeach
a reply to: Phage

Depends who is doing the polling.
It's not beyond the realms of fiction to put out false polling results to effect the minds of would be Trump voters.

Trump voters are sheeple?

We're all sheeple when it comes down to driving to work, shopping
for food, taking the kids to the school, going out to eat - sheeple.
Here we are not sheeple but ATSers - big difference.

I love how the MSM blatantly and dishonestly calls a winner in
the debate which is something, as you said, that cannot be clearly
won or lost until the effects of the debate on the electorate are
gauged.

a reply to: Phage

What bothers me is that Democrats went after footage of Trump's potty mouth (from 10 years ago) as a closer and this is really a dick move. Trump had controversial opinions like building a wall and having Mexico pay for it, shutting down all mosques, keeping Muslim immigrants out of America... and he had a history of vulgar speech -

I don't think he has a chance unless there is a big event between now and the election or something happens to Clinton.

originally posted by: jellyrev
a reply to: Willtell

survey says that is a lie

You know who Frank Luntz is, don't you? He's literally the Republicans' most famous guy for creating and transforming narratives (aka "spinning" or "BSing"). Some of his greatest hits were getting GOPers to use:

"Death Tax" (for estate tax);

"Government takeover" and "Washington takeover" (in reference to health care reform)

"Health care rationing"

Emphasizing "Climate Change" (vs. global warming)

"Job-killing"

Help small businesses" (in lieu of talking about Capitalism)

Mentioning 9/11 in close proximity to anything having to do with foreign policy in the Middle East.

Contract with and Pledge to America

"Job Creation" (in lieu of entrepreneurship)

Frank Luntz
So it's not like he's unbiased.

originally posted by: darkbake
What bothers me is that Democrats went after footage of Trump's potty mouth (from 10 years ago) as a closer and this is really a dick move. Trump had controversial opinions like building a wall and having Mexico pay for it, shutting down all mosques, keeping Muslim immigrants out of America... and he had a history of vulgar speech -

I don't think he has a chance unless there is a big event between now and the election or something happens to Clinton.

To be fair, his entire campaign has been one to various demographics at one point or another. Each phase has been a giant middle finger to a different group of Americans.

originally posted by: Willtell
Billy Bush Suspended From ‘Today’ After Lewd Trump Tape Scandal

Look at this. This poor guy loses his job because of Trump's antics

The days of Billy Bush’s life are rapidly going from bad to worse. Bush, the first cousin of President George W. Bush and former Florida governor Jeb Bush, has been indefinitely suspended from the third hour of the Today show, NBC’s venerable morning franchise that he officially joined as a co-anchor a mere two months ago—disciplinary action for his role in a crude and sexist conversation he had with Donald Trump 11 years ago when he was hosting Access Hollywood.

Bush’s suspension was announced Sunday night by Noah Oppenheim, senior vice president in charge of Today, in a “Dear TODAY family” memo to the staff.

I thought he was supposed to be a job creator?

originally posted by: darkbake
What bothers me is that Democrats went after footage of Trump's potty mouth (from 10 years ago) as a closer and this is really a dick move. Trump had controversial opinions like building a wall and having Mexico pay for it, shutting down all mosques, keeping Muslim immigrants out of America... and he had a history of vulgar speech -

I don't think he has a chance unless there is a big event between now and the election or something happens to Clinton.

The recording isn't documentation of Trump's "potty mouth" but of his true attitudes toward women, his admitting that he is a sexual predator, and the fact that he was apparently willing to cheat on this third wife only a few months after their marriage.

I mean, come on, let's not diminish this to "bad words."