Do all lives matter??? Put your money where your mouth is. Thanks.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: intrptr

Thats just ignorant. War destroys that infrastructure.

TURKEY

no infrastructure

....:stuff:

Turkey borders Syria, is directly affected by refugees. Last count over a million. Where do you think they exist, in a vacuum?

a reply to: intrptr

Turkey has infrastructure. Where do you think it is? In a vacuum?

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: eletheia

yeah pretty much.

They were safe. These people are dead because of their father.

This is all propaganda. It doesnt reach me. When you actually see the missery of life on earth it puts the spin into perspective.

Sentimental blackmail. Wag the dog crap.

Dealing with family is tough enough, imagine having to make a choice like some of these people do....here in the western world we fight with our families over really benign reasons.....imagine having to make a choice of life and death like some of these poor souls do .... i would go as far to say these people that put their children on boats in hope for a better place care far more than we can comprehend ....

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

nope.

My cuban family didnt jump on a dingy. They went to mexico and ate tortillas until they could catch a bus.

Iived in mexico myself and faced some pretty dire situations. If my wifes visa was denied I would have eaten frijoles and tortilla and dreamed of protien for the rest of my days.

I would not cross a desert with my kids. I would not jump on a dingy with my kids.

I would rather they live thanks. It really is dependent on how smart you are, and how earsty you are personally for nice thigs.

If everyone is alive and well, then that is the hand you are dealt.

Dont assume everyone in the west lives in ivory towers. Some of us face real struggle.

This crap doesnt reach us.

Also the middle class has been destroyed, its reaching less people with every drop that is squized out of them. They will revolt.

This propaganda is insulting.

a reply to: tadaman

This crap doesnt reach us.

Yep...right there...this crap does not reach us....so how exactly are we to walk a mile in their shoes if we have no clue where they have been ?

ETA ...it is easy to judge others based on our own limited experience ....

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

again, dont assume that we dont face REAL struggle. Maybe you live in an ivory tower. Take that guilt with you.

I am to the point that I could snap. And some semtimental BS from across the world is supposed to make me feel guilty for my superior poverty.

What ever. I cant afford beer anymore. So cheers with water.

a reply to: tadaman

So you assume your struggle is as hard as the next guy....?...really ?...your experience trumps all others.... ?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

does it have to?

Dude, check your shait. I dont owe you or these people anything. I am almost homeless, AGAIN.

bite me

a reply to: tadaman

Absolutely.......you are basically saying (please correct me if i am wrong) that you understand exactly where these people come from (as in needing to stick their family members on a dodgy boat and risk uncertain death for a hope for a better life) ...and that your personal experience has taught you this much...

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I am saying, I dont care anymore. That I have met enough heartless bastards in this world to get a pretty clear picture that life is not fair and no one is going to help you through.

That if you throw your kids on a crap boat you are a retard.

That if you have work, food and a home then be thankful and stop looking to first world countries for a grand life.

and yes, I have seen some shait, more than some.

a reply to: tadaman

That if you throw your kids on a crap boat you are a retard.

regardless of circumstances...one size fits all ?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

here is a question

Have YOU ever been hungry, cold, and scared?

a reply to: tadaman

I get from your edits you are having a hard time.....sry bro i will not continue this as i can see where it is headed.....

You want some beer money...send me a private message and a way to forward some beer funds to you and i will indulge you....and for the record i a live in someone elses ivory tower....

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

here is a question

Have YOU ever been hungry, cold, and scared?

Damn straight i have.....its a crap place to be.....i have a boy to look after so i do what i have to to keep him from feeling that way and i will no matter what the cost....

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

So why pretend that there is some magical power stopping bad things from happening?

That if you risk your kids well being and something happens its anyones fault but your own?

Please take this wag the dog crap and cry about it all day for all I care.

I will die if I have to, but I will get myself out of my situation one damn way or the other. Its a scale that accepts blood sweat and tears. Everyone can pay....if they are willing.

This dad didnt want to pay, he wanted to jump the register....

a reply to: tadaman

WTF that even mean ?.....

Majical power...seriously ....

Let me get this straight....if i want to marry a mexican girl and my family disown for it i am in just as bad a position as those folks from the middle east escaping war ........sigh....

Wag the dog...get a grip...

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

what?

Are you refering to my situation?
LOL

Enjoy someone elses ivory tower while you pretend to lecture me.

HIT THE BRICKS

Yeah, wag the dog crap.

a reply to: tadaman

FFS stop editing your posts ...just get it out without second guessing yourself

no.

I will add all I want to.

NOW, answer me.

Are you refering to my situation?

If so.....
Enjoy someone elses ivory tower while you pretend to lecture me.

HIT THE BRICKS

Yeah, wag the dog crap.

keep your beer money and move out of the ivory tower and into a crap place you deserve.

a reply to: tadaman

Are you refering to my situation? LOL Enjoy someone elses ivory tower while you pretend to lecture me.

It became that as soon as you used your personal experience as a counter to why people do things in extreme circumstance....