Shooting heard in Ankara, military jets & helicopters flying over city

originally posted by: daaskapital
Live stream of CNN Turk's office, which was closed by military. People are chanting outside, and there was gunfire moments ago:

Is CNN's office at the airport?

Who would like to tell a person what is going on?

Alright,y'all what happens in a post-coup Turkey? If the rebels have Ankara and that part of the country while the government has Istanbul and the rest of it.I can see a long,bloody civil war starting.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

Like when Obama was involved with Syria and the Ukraine

originally posted by: Xcathdra

If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

And if the CIA were involved?

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: Xcathdra

If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

Like when Obama was involved with Syria and the Ukraine

Syria and Ukraine are not NATO countries.
The US did not invade either country.

You have that confused with Russian actions. Brush up on facts and get back to us here in the possible coup in Turkey thread.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: Xcathdra

If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

And if the CIA were involved?

and if the GRU is involved?

originally posted by: mike dangerously
Alright,y'all what happens in a post-coup Turkey? If the rebels have Ankara and that part of the country while the government has Istanbul and the rest of it.I can see a long,bloody civil war starting.

Post coup Turkey? The same thing thats happened in the past. The military stabilizes things and holds democratic elections.

1913 Ottoman coup d'état
1960 Turkish coup d'état
1971 Turkish military memorandum
1980 Turkish coup d'état
1993 alleged Turkish military coup
1997 Turkish military memorandum
2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt

Several explosions near their Parliament building.

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Who would like to tell a person what is going on?

Just to get you caught-up:

• Some subset of the Turkish military is trying to oust the current regime.
  
• Leader of existing/prior regime, did Face-Time interview with Turkish TV stations to call for people to take to the streets, which apparently many did.
  
• Many conflicting reports of which side is in control of which cities.
  
• Two cities of prime significance you will hear are:
  Ankara = The capital =think Washington D.C.
  Istanbul = Largest city, port city, economic center = think New York City.
  
• I predict the military coup fails (I give the coup 12.% chance of success at this point, they totally botched the job).
  

Jonjonj

Hey JonJonJ;

THIS is from Xcathdra on another page here. Hope it helps You...

"Turkey has had several coups over the decades and its always been the military removing governments that have gone to far to the extreme side / strict Islam side. When Edrogen won the election he and the military did not get along, and that relationship further declined when the Constitution was changed preventing the ability of the military from protecting the constitution.

Edrogen also went after the military heads after those changes were made and sent a few to prison.

This was only a matter of time... and thats assuming the coup is to restore a government for the people."

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: Xcathdra

If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

And if the CIA were involved?

and if the GRU is involved?

And the SIS too?

a reply to: Xcathdra

What happens if DOG is behind this false flag in order to clean his army, as he stated in live speech just now?

originally posted by: SyxPak
Jonjonj

Hey JonJonJ;

THIS is from Xcathdra on another page here. Hope it helps You...

"Turkey has had several coups over the decades and its always been the military removing governments that have gone to far to the extreme side / strict Islam side. When Edrogen won the election he and the military did not get along, and that relationship further declined when the Constitution was changed preventing the ability of the military from protecting the constitution.

Edrogen also went after the military heads after those changes were made and sent a few to prison.

This was only a matter of time... and thats assuming the coup is to restore a government for the people."

The military aren't directly killing people so I would assume it's a safe bet they are, understandably so.

a reply to: Xcathdra
Ahh!
He and Obama must get along great then..

Too many folks foaming at the mouth about going to war after the horrific events in Nice, now the base for an offensive to eliminate the caliphate 35mi from the border of Turkey is conveniently in a nation under a coup....

Set aside the outrage, set aside the arguments on how nations should approach the terrorists...

A destabilized Turk military isn't one to mess with...

Are we being herded again into another convenient conflict, to fill more vaults with $$$$ at the expense of our nearest and dearest, because we are riled up by talking heads?

I hope not....

I would rather the talking heads go fight the war they seek, I imagine that fervor would cease swiftly if they were the one's to put their lives at risk...

YMMV.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: Xcathdra
If Putin were involved then it can be taken as an attack on a NATO country.

And if the CIA were involved?

and if the GRU is involved?

Personally, I think if either of those were involved (CIA or GRU), things would have gone-down much more effectively with this coup. This is a totally botched-job. Whoever kicked this off, did not have broad enough support throughout all their military branches.

It reminds me a bit of Kyūjō incident, or as a commentator mentioned on the MSM recently a "colonels coup" - implying little or no general-level support.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: mike dangerously
Alright,y'all what happens in a post-coup Turkey? If the rebels have Ankara and that part of the country while the government has Istanbul and the rest of it.I can see a long,bloody civil war starting.

Post coup Turkey? The same thing thats happened in the past. The military stabilizes things and holds democratic elections.

1913 Ottoman coup d'état
1960 Turkish coup d'état
1971 Turkish military memorandum
1980 Turkish coup d'état
1993 alleged Turkish military coup
1997 Turkish military memorandum
2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt

Several explosions near their Parliament building.

In the past that's how it worked out but with a divided country who's to say?

originally posted by: SyxPak
Jonjonj

Hey JonJonJ;

THIS is from Xcathdra on another page here. Hope it helps You...

"Turkey has had several coups over the decades and its always been the military removing governments that have gone to far to the extreme side / strict Islam side. When Edrogen won the election he and the military did not get along, and that relationship further declined when the Constitution was changed preventing the ability of the military from protecting the constitution.

Edrogen also went after the military heads after those changes were made and sent a few to prison.

This was only a matter of time... and thats assuming the coup is to restore a government for the people."

thank you very much sir.