The Sanders "Revolution" Was Just Put To Sleep

originally posted by: CynConcepts
It is frustrating that so many say that the only reason they are voting for Clinton or Trump is out of fear of the otherside becoming President! If everyone of these individuals voted for a third party, Americans would send a bigger message to the establishment than the fact that we are just sheeple! Sigh.

THAT!
Or don´t vote, if you think you only can choose between two evils.
Wouldn´t change anything too. Or does one really believe that such elections aren´t manipulated nowadays?
Il ive in germany and i can´t believe what the people here allegedly vote, for example, Angela Merkel two times.
But try to find the people that voted for her. Many maybe don´t want to admit that they have been that dumb twice.
But the rest...?

He greatly influenced the platform, he did make a difference

I can't stand Trump personally, and I'm definitely not fond of Hillary, but for me, it all boils down to the Supreme Court Justice nominee. Hillary will nominate someone closer to moderate; I don't know what Trump will do, but his latest claims are that he will nominate a super conservative who will try to overturn Roe v Wade. That's not going happen if I have anything to say about it. My vote will NOT go to Trump.

We just aren't at a place yet where a third party candidate has any chance of winning - I think we are getting a little closer, but not there yet. So, I will probably hold my nose and vote for Hillary. I am a HUGE Bernie supporter, for the record.

We must be so divided as a nation that people would even consider choosing Hillary over Trump or anyone else for that matter.

If that's the case, then there really is no hope for America.


Giant Meteor 2016

a reply to: Agit8dChop

I think somethings going to happen that will change this election or someone will try and take Trump out!

The way it looks now it will be the GOP that shuts Trump down.
The convention will be a dumpster fire....

a reply to: thinline

If people that said the felt the bern, really felt the bern, they would be voting Green Party

Agreed.

Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

My perspective is different than most, I see Trump as a catalyst for real change, not all of it to my personal liking either.
But unlike some other ATS members I don't fear a Trump presidency. I don't fear a Clinton presidency either, I know it will be just like Obama's reign which wasn't so bad, better than Bush. But major change that was promised never happened, and that hope has turned to ash in America under Obama. I also don't see Clinton and Putin getting along. But I see Trump and Putin working out deals.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

They want to ban women from combat, teach the Bible in public schools, overturn the legalization of gay marriage and declare porn as a “public health crisis.” You can bet there will be anti-abortion, 'religious freedom' (read "Christian supremacy") and overturn Obamacare issues in there as well, not to mention Trump's anti-immigration stance, beginning with the "wall".

No, thanks! I'm not willing to vote to give up the progress Obama has made.

1. What's the benefit of having women in combat?

2. I'm sure "Bible class" would not be mandatory nor constitutional.

3. As far as gay marriage, overturning that would be a disaster, politically and socially. Not going to happen.

4. Planned Parenthood has killed over 6 million babies since its inception and most of those aborted were done out of the pregnancy being an 'inconvenience'. Partners simply need to more responsible, and if you fear being raped, get training and a CCW.

5. As far as "Christian supremacy"? It's pretty tough to overturn a constitutionally amended right. So that's just to garner votes. He can't do that from the White House. Sorry.

6. Obamacare is an absolute disaster and needs to be repealed.

7. It's not about 'anti-immigration'. Anyone is free to go through the process of citizenship properly. You should not however, be rewarded and given sanctuary for breaking our laws.

I see very little progress, if at all, on behalf of Obama's 2 terms. If your definition of "progress" is making people "feel good" and "hopeful", I don't even see where that has occurred either.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

The action of throwing his full support to Clinton, knowing her "truth", is fully owned and representative of Mr. Sanders. He "Bern"ed his supporters, willfully and knowingly. He didn't have to endorse HC at all.

originally posted by: butcherguy
Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

Can I ask... What do you mean he "sold out"? He LOST. That's not selling out. And he has said from the beginning that he would support her if he lost. He's just keeping his word, once again.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic


No, thanks! I'm not willing to vote to give up the progress Obama has made.

Oh my god...you cant REALLY have your head that far up the rump region of the democratic party, can you?

Well, I have see your posts here so...that answers that.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

I'd rather have Obama again than EITHER of the two front-runners, but with the choices I have, I will vote AGAINST the GOP..

Just reading the left-ist crap you spew here, how could there be any doubt WHO you would vote against, just needed to see yourself type it AGAIN, eh?

Thanks for sharing?

Now what we need to do is not elect EITHER one of these bums.

Liar, crook, bigot, killer, criminal, racist - lets play PIN THE LABEL ON THE CANDIDATE. This is game BOTH of them can play, and a lot of the labels will be interchangeable, so everyone wins and EVERYONE gets a ribbon.

Damn, I am so tired by what our country has become. And finally, you darned kids get off my lawn or the whole lot of you will "FEEL THE BERN" up side your backside. And what the hell is a POKEY EEEE MAHN? Damned whipersnappers!


Dorian Soran 2.0v

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: butcherguy
Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

Can I ask... What do you mean he "sold out"? He LOST. That's not selling out. And he has said from the beginning that he would support her if he lost. He's just keeping his word, once again.

The right doesn't understand unity anymore. To them it's about fighting kicking and screaming about getting your exact way until no one listens to you anymore. And then you kick and scream some more.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: butcherguy
Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

Can I ask... What do you mean he "sold out"? He LOST. That's not selling out. And he has said from the beginning that he would support her if he lost. He's just keeping his word, once again.

He could continue to run his grassroots campaign unchanged, as an independent.

He sold out when he agreed to support a person that is exactly what he campaigned against. My opinion.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Unity?

There is no "unity" anymore.

Unity has left the building.

I trust my American brethren to vote against the fascist who wants to overturn Abortion decisions & wants to change marriage laws as well as punishing women who do have an abortion.

He also wants to "sit down" with the NRA and have a big discussion about gun control...
That's a red line for most conservatives.
So we can assume they'll vote for Johnson which brings even more % points to Mrs.Clinton.


The left are in charge now.
No more regressive policy.

Get over it.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Unity?

There is no "unity" anymore.

Unity has left the building.

Really? Because that is what Sanders is trying to pull off here and according to my link on page 1 its working.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: butcherguy
Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

Can I ask... What do you mean he "sold out"? He LOST. That's not selling out. And he has said from the beginning that he would support her if he lost. He's just keeping his word, once again.

The right doesn't understand unity anymore. To them it's about fighting kicking and screaming about getting your exact way until no one listens to you anymore. And then you kick and scream some more.

You continue to pigeonhole me as 'right'.
What right-winger agrees with legalizing all drugs?
What right-winger supports a woman's right to choose?
What right-winger wants to keep religion out of public schools.

I am me, a person with various positions on various things.
I don't call you a left-winger.

originally posted by: DorianSoran
And finally, you darned kids get off my lawn or the whole lot of you will "FEEL THE BERN" up side your backside. And what the hell is a POKEY EEEE MAHN? Damned whipersnappers!

LOL! That was pretty funny! Especially considering my age...

originally posted by: butcherguy
He could continue to run his grassroots campaign unchanged, as an independent.

He COULD have. Yes. He COULD have run on a Socialist Party ticket. He COULD have run as a Republican or Independent or whatever. But he didn't. And he specifically said, since the beginning, that he WOULD NOT run as an Independent AND that he would support Clinton if he lost...

He didn't sell out, he stayed true. This is what I love about him.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: butcherguy
Just because Bernie sold out, that doesn't mean that everyone else has to sell out.

Can I ask... What do you mean he "sold out"? He LOST. That's not selling out. And he has said from the beginning that he would support her if he lost. He's just keeping his word, once again.

The right doesn't understand unity anymore. To them it's about fighting kicking and screaming about getting your exact way until no one listens to you anymore. And then you kick and scream some more.

You continue to pigeonhole me as 'right'.
What right-winger agrees with legalizing all drugs?
What right-winger supports a woman's right to choose?
What right-winger wants to keep religion out of public schools.

I am me, a person with various positions on various things.
I don't call you a left-winger.

Johnson?

As far as I know anyways.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: DorianSoran
And finally, you darned kids get off my lawn or the whole lot of you will "FEEL THE BERN" up side your backside. And what the hell is a POKEY EEEE MAHN? Damned whipersnappers!

LOL! That was pretty funny! Especially considering my age...

Oh, that's MY age too so maybe NOT so funny - haha