Surprising New Evidence Shows Bias in Police Use of Force but Not in Shootings

Surprising New Evidence Shows Bias in Police Use of Force but Not in Shootings

They are some very interesting statistics but they show that no race is shot and killed more than another.

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He and a group of student researchers spent about 3,000 hours assembling detailed data from police reports in Houston; Austin, Tex.; Dallas; Los Angeles; Orlando, Fla.; Jacksonville, Fla.; and four other counties in Florida.

At first glance, the following was found during the research. It showed that in fact a police officer was more likely to shoot at a white suspect before learning the situation.

In officer-involved shootings in these 10 cities, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both of these results undercut the idea that the police wield lethal force with racial bias.

Please take the time to read the article. It is showing that there is no evidence that one race is targeted more for shooting by police so...why again are we protesting in the streets and killing cops?

a reply to: matafuchs

Did you actually read what you posted? The answer to your question is in there.

a reply to: matafuchs

why again are we protesting in the streets and killing cops?

'We' aren't killing cops. Neither are the protesters.

They are trying to preserve life, as in "lives matter".

Thats like the third time today I've had to say that in a thread.

a reply to: Tsubaki

Where is it?

a reply to: intrptr

No, we as a nation are. If we are all one then we are all responsible. Do you not find it atrocious that 5 police officers were killed and the next day people were protesting still and attacking police officers for no reason. None.

That is why is published this. There is no reason for these protests.

a reply to: matafuchs

Literally the first item you see, the graph illustrating the difference between a White's interaction and a Black's interaction with the police.

You think it stops there?

Mr. Fryer defined this group to include suspects the police charged with serious offenses like attempting to murder an officer, or evading or resisting arrest. He also considered suspects shocked with Tasers. And in the arena of “shoot” or “don’t shoot,” Mr. Fryer found that, in tense situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot suspects if the suspect were black. This estimate was not very precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But, in a variety of models that controlled for different factors and used different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites.

Seems like something's missing here eh?

originally posted by: Tsubaki
a reply to: matafuchs

Did you actually read what you posted? The answer to your question is in there.

Then why do they only protest police killings? If they were upset over the way police use force, then they would protest other incidents too, but they don't and they only complain about being shot as if there is an epidemic of police killing blacks when all the numbers show it simply isn't so.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: intrptr

No, we as a nation are. If we are all one then we are all responsible. Do you not find it atrocious that 5 police officers were killed and the next day people were protesting still and attacking police officers for no reason. None.

That is why is published this. There is no reason for these protests.

No, we as a nation are.

Now its we, America. You linked the crime of murdering the officers in Dallas with the BLM movement.

Juuust like you're supposed to.

Murdering civilians or officers in cold blood is a crime. Thing is when cops do it, they generally get away with it.

And thats what the protests are about.

Shouldn't blacklivesmatter start doing more to stop young men obtaining firearms and killing each other in their own communities too? What are the statistics when you compare young black men dying at the hands of the police compared to dying at the hands of other men of a similiar background? Why isn't anyone spending 3000 hours sorting that out? That is equally (at least) tragic if you ask me.

a reply to: intrptr

No link. Influence. Just like Islam influenced the Orlando shooter. BLM and the US leadership in America should have already spoken up so as a nation we can try to quell this violence.

Instead, The POTUS says he hears the voice of the protesters. The AG says the protesters should not keep quite. Clinton says white people need to listen more. Jesse Jackson blamed Trump. Farrakhan calls for more killings.

Nowhere did anyone say we need to come together as a nation.

Most of the people who perform these acts of violence are easily led. Pointed in a direction of hate. If someone says they shot and killed 5 cops because they believe in BLM then something needs to be said about that group. They did when it came to Islam.

BLM should be walking the streets of Chicago EACH NIGHT. Armed if needed. instead of shouting white privilege they should be solving black on black crime in the inner city. A fellow black male is more likely to kill them than a cop.

a reply to: matafuchs

Just like Islam influenced the Orlando shooter.

Another misstatement.

But you can believe what people deranged enough to mass murder their fellow human beings say, if you like.

a reply to: sg1642

BLM started to address police brutality.

Why are you trying to intertwine two separate issues?

There are people that are concerned about inner city Black youth violence. Do you think they don't exists because its not plastered all over the news? Everyone realizes that there's an issue, stop trying to deflect. It's insulting.

a reply to: intrptr

How is it a misstatement?

President Barack Obama on Monday branded the killer a “homegrown extremist” — but one likely inspired by radical Islamic terrorists abroad. Read more here: www.miamiherald.com...=cpy

I mean, even the president says so...and the FBI.

a reply to: matafuchs

I find it funny that ATS members champion 'personal responsibility' so hardcore, that is until such time it benefits them not to.

a reply to: matafuchs

I mean, even the president says so...and the FBI.

The FBI?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Tsubaki
a reply to: sg1642

BLM started to address police brutality.

Why are you trying to intertwine two separate issues?

There are people that are concerned about inner city Black youth violence. Do you think they don't exists because its not plastered all over the news? Everyone realizes that there's an issue, stop trying to deflect. It's insulting.

you should find the media deflecting those issues insulting. Using tragic deaths to create tension.

originally posted by: intrptr
'We' aren't killing cops. Neither are the protesters.
They are trying to preserve life, as in "lives matter".

This black lives matter member/supporter/protester murdered a Kentucky police officer.

www.nydailynews.com...

Until the good black lives matter supporters start turning in the bad black lives matter supporters I can't take them seriously.

We all know that a good black lives matter supporter that doesn't turn in the bad ones are just as bad themselves, right?

Three of the highest positions in the US, the Attorney General, the President of the United States and the Department of Homeland Security, are all African-American. I think BLM should camp outside their houses till there is change.

a reply to: intrptr

If that were so, then they would be protesting ALL police shootings not just the ones where white cops shoot black men. After all, the numbers show that cops shoot other ethnicities as much. Do you have numbers showing those cops get jailed for shooting other ethnicities but somehow they never get disciplined for shooting blacks?

These goalposts are bolting all over the place.

a reply to: matafuchs

why again are we protesting in the streets and killing cops?

Because if this group has noone to blame for their actions, then they would have to take personal responsibility.


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