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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: iTruthSeeker
Defending him is exactly what we should be doing and all others in similar situations. Criminal pasts have no bearing on whether or not a person has inalienable rights. Especially in places where you end up in prison for sneezing wrong. If you aren't willing to defend the inalienable rights of those you find the least desirable than you aren't defending the inalienable rights of anyone, including yourself.
Prison, sadly, for most people only turns them meaner so taking a petty criminal and locking them up for years because it's their third offense is counter productive to a healthy society. We also have way too many punishable offenses out there. These are symptoms of an authoritarian state.
We don't yet know whether these cops were defending their lives or not and we may never know. What we do know is that there are good cops and there's bad cops. We also know there's a racial problem in the south (not all southerners, calm down), that there's a small percentage of white cops in the KKK. Which were these cops? We ought to question how much authority and who wields it. Every. Single. Time.
We also have way too many punishable offenses out there
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
So child molestation, burglary, assault, etc are offenses that are silly and nit picking?
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: iTruthSeeker
Alarming to see this type of mentality so prevalent today, even on ATS where we are supposed to "deny ignorance"
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
So child molestation, burglary, assault, etc are offenses that are silly and nit picking?
Yes...when you are attempting to justify a potential murder because you dont like the person, then yeah, you are using silly, nit-picking nonsense as a counter.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
So child molestation, burglary, assault, etc are offenses that are silly and nit picking?
Yes...when you are attempting to justify a potential murder because you dont like the person, then yeah, you are using silly, nit-picking nonsense as a counter.
His past shows the type of person he is and what he is capable of, which is important in this case. The fact of the matter though is the man has fought police in the past, tried to do it again and he lost. As far as Kalis post, it seemed to me that she is saying he was arrested in the past by over authoritarian laws. So according to her, laws like rape robbery assault are over reaching laws and should not be illegal. That is what I took from it anyway.
iTruthSeeker
His past shows the type of person he is and what he is capable of, which is important in this case.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
So child molestation, burglary, assault, etc are offenses that are silly and nit picking?
Yes...when you are attempting to justify a potential murder because you dont like the person, then yeah, you are using silly, nit-picking nonsense as a counter.
His past shows the type of person he is and what he is capable of, which is important in this case.
originally posted by: bknapple32
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
So child molestation, burglary, assault, etc are offenses that are silly and nit picking?
Yes...when you are attempting to justify a potential murder because you dont like the person, then yeah, you are using silly, nit-picking nonsense as a counter.
His past shows the type of person he is and what he is capable of, which is important in this case. The fact of the matter though is the man has fought police in the past, tried to do it again and he lost. As far as Kalis post, it seemed to me that she is saying he was arrested in the past by over authoritarian laws. So according to her, laws like rape robbery assault are over reaching laws and should not be illegal. That is what I took from it anyway.
iTruthSeeker
I hope your past is never used against you for a public execution like the victim.
Always easier to talk about when its other people. We have something called due process. We aren't ISIS. We dont shoot first, then ask was he guilty. Or at least, were not supposed to.
His past is appropriate. IN COURT. Not at a gas station where one person is judge jury and executioner.
originally posted by: one4all
WOW...another Police murder of an innocent person....innocent until proven guilty is Americas BREAD AND BUTTER MOTTO .
This guy alledgedly had a permit to carry a gun...."dispatch" framed it as if it was an illegaly armed aggressive gunman....this man was MURDERED BECAUSE HE HAD A PROPER GUN PERMIT.........they kill innocents who illegally have guns and they kill innocents who illegally have guns.....they murder armed and unarmed innocent people by gunfire routinely across the US.
This is without a doubt a case of a ROTTEN FOUNDATION......these police men and women ARE SUPPORTED IN DOING THIS....begin with their UNION...BUST ITS BALLS DOWN TO SIZE.....then go after the PROSECUTORS and JUDGES who currently play coy and refuse to do their jobs proactively when it comes to prosecuting police officers et al.....then once you have FIRED ALL THE UPPER LEVEL JUDGES WHO HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU GO AFER EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ...LAW ON THE BOOKS WHICH THESE CRIMINLS USE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES......YOU PEEL EVERY SINGLE LAYER OF THE ENTIRE ONION BACK UNTIL EVERYHING IS TRANSPARENT.
Only the Donald can save America.....only new money can bumsrush out the olde money holding America back....this is where America makes her stand.....I hope the world is recognising what is happening....the United States is very YOUNG.... AND IS EVOLVING AGAIN..... she is self-correcting.......Trump will prevent a Civil War in the US because HE WILL PROMOTE OLDE STYLE AMERICA...SUCESSFULL AMERICA....he will expose 9-11 and he will expose the JFK Murderers.....he will rip the evil roots right out of good olde Texas like pulling a rottten tooth.Trump has leaned via his business experiences that for every blackhat in this world there are 1000 whitehats waiting to fill the void should a blackhat falter.....TEXAS is full of good americans and so is every state and these good men and women will FLOOD INTO THE VOIDS TRUMP WILL HELP HIS COUNTRY BUILD.
The Donald has learned that when its all said and done......the good men and women of the world always come out on top....that good trumps evil every time....that honesty trumps lies....that alliegence trumps greed....that national identity trumps race....that justice trumps graft and that love trumps hate.
America HAS NOT BEEN FALLING APART.....SHE HAS BEEN FALLING FORWARD........she is MORPHING AGAIN BECAUSE SHE IS STILL SO YOUNG.....Donald Trump will facillitate this new growth......America MUST GROW NOW BIGGER AND FASTER THAN EVER.....but in homegrown way...in a FAMILY WAY...America will soon have to REDISCOVER its committment to FAMILIES AND THE NUCLEAR STRUCTURES because this is where the impetus for progressive growth comes from.
Redistribute wealth in ways which empower the nuclear family structure....do it ASAP....do it impactfully....make changes happen immediatly....no HOME OR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP WITHOUT CHILDREN....one home per Person....limited land ownership to individuals with NO ABILITY TO WILL IT FORWARD....upon death it re-enters the marketplace.
Begin PAYING PEOPLE TO RIP DOWN OLD ROTTING AMERICA and then HELP THEM USE THE MONEY THEY MAKE TO REBUILD A NEW AMERICA.......de-centralise the old infrastuctures and eliminate the vast intentionlly elongnated and complicated goods transfer and transport Industires.Streamline America.....cut back the olde growth now...tidy it up ,mulch and re-apply the refuse....as fertiliser to faccillitate future growth.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
His past shows the type of person he is and what he is capable of.....
Were the cops supposed to let him get that gun? What is so hard to understand? They get a call of a man with a gun, the guy resists, they taze him, does not work and he keeps resisting, while armed...And "apparently" reaching for that gun.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: one4all
WOW...another Police murder of an innocent person....innocent until proven guilty is Americas BREAD AND BUTTER MOTTO .
This guy alledgedly had a permit to carry a gun...."dispatch" framed it as if it was an illegaly armed aggressive gunman....this man was MURDERED BECAUSE HE HAD A PROPER GUN PERMIT.........they kill innocents who illegally have guns and they kill innocents who illegally have guns.....they murder armed and unarmed innocent people by gunfire routinely across the US.
This is without a doubt a case of a ROTTEN FOUNDATION......these police men and women ARE SUPPORTED IN DOING THIS....begin with their UNION...BUST ITS BALLS DOWN TO SIZE.....then go after the PROSECUTORS and JUDGES who currently play coy and refuse to do their jobs proactively when it comes to prosecuting police officers et al.....then once you have FIRED ALL THE UPPER LEVEL JUDGES WHO HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU GO AFER EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ...LAW ON THE BOOKS WHICH THESE CRIMINLS USE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES......YOU PEEL EVERY SINGLE LAYER OF THE ENTIRE ONION BACK UNTIL EVERYHING IS TRANSPARENT.
Only the Donald can save America.....only new money can bumsrush out the olde money holding America back....this is where America makes her stand.....I hope the world is recognising what is happening....the United States is very YOUNG.... AND IS EVOLVING AGAIN..... she is self-correcting.......Trump will prevent a Civil War in the US because HE WILL PROMOTE OLDE STYLE AMERICA...SUCESSFULL AMERICA....he will expose 9-11 and he will expose the JFK Murderers.....he will rip the evil roots right out of good olde Texas like pulling a rottten tooth.Trump has leaned via his business experiences that for every blackhat in this world there are 1000 whitehats waiting to fill the void should a blackhat falter.....TEXAS is full of good americans and so is every state and these good men and women will FLOOD INTO THE VOIDS TRUMP WILL HELP HIS COUNTRY BUILD.
The Donald has learned that when its all said and done......the good men and women of the world always come out on top....that good trumps evil every time....that honesty trumps lies....that alliegence trumps greed....that national identity trumps race....that justice trumps graft and that love trumps hate.
America HAS NOT BEEN FALLING APART.....SHE HAS BEEN FALLING FORWARD........she is MORPHING AGAIN BECAUSE SHE IS STILL SO YOUNG.....Donald Trump will facillitate this new growth......America MUST GROW NOW BIGGER AND FASTER THAN EVER.....but in homegrown way...in a FAMILY WAY...America will soon have to REDISCOVER its committment to FAMILIES AND THE NUCLEAR STRUCTURES because this is where the impetus for progressive growth comes from.
Redistribute wealth in ways which empower the nuclear family structure....do it ASAP....do it impactfully....make changes happen immediatly....no HOME OR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP WITHOUT CHILDREN....one home per Person....limited land ownership to individuals with NO ABILITY TO WILL IT FORWARD....upon death it re-enters the marketplace.
Begin PAYING PEOPLE TO RIP DOWN OLD ROTTING AMERICA and then HELP THEM USE THE MONEY THEY MAKE TO REBUILD A NEW AMERICA.......de-centralise the old infrastuctures and eliminate the vast intentionlly elongnated and complicated goods transfer and transport Industires.Streamline America.....cut back the olde growth now...tidy it up ,mulch and re-apply the refuse....as fertiliser to faccillitate future growth.
A 19 time felon has a permit to carry that gun? BS
iTruthSeeker