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I'm a firm believer that no private company should be controlled by the state. Yes, minimal regulations might be necessary, but to force a company to create or alter their business model just because a couple people whine about the business not catering to their personal life is utterly asinine.

You know, there used to be a time in America where these people would have, to paraphrase a particular animated movie about robots, seen a need a filled that need by creating their own website that catered to the LGBT community.

But, you know, crying to the court system is apathetically easier, I guess.

This is not justice, it's tyranny.

We get it rather clearly.
It worked on a cake company NOW we've got a website to target and sling rapid indignations and eventually LAWSUITS under a rather sickening umbrella of protection from the current administration.
We get you want NO PLACE for traditions,history or ANYTHING but P.C. social values.
Screw that.
I'm NOBODY'S victim.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
I'm a firm believer that no private company should be controlled by the state. Yes, minimal regulations might be necessary, but to force a company to create or alter their business model just because a couple people whine about the business not catering to their personal life is utterly asinine.

How are they altering their business model?

It's a Christian dating site. Nothing is changing that.

If they can put a question in asking ethnicity. They can easily include a sexual orientation question.

It's no big deal to add another question to the website.

a reply to: Annee

Because it's apparent that their business model is to connect heterosexual people with each other. The state should not be able to step in and say that you must include this or that modifier on their site just because a couple guys apparently got their feelings hurt that they weren't included.

There are plenty of LGBT online dating sites out there, to include apps as well. This is just someone crying about not be included, and using daddy government's overreaching hand to force something that should not be an issue.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

If you are going to have a public business, then you must respect equal rights. Not including LGBT is the exact same as putting up a sign out front of your business saying "no blacks allowed".

It is discrimination and now there is no tolerance. Sad that there has to be a law to force people to respect each other

a reply to: cavtrooper7

If by tradition you mean segregation and bigotry...then NO, I want no part of YOUR stupid "tradition".

a reply to: veracity

It's easily overturned once a better regime is in place, we all know it.
THE same dull thud that occurred when hippies lost popularity as did socialism.
It's been a full court press against us but, denied.

a reply to: veracity

The ability to be separate as individuals or organized entities are indeed what we are fighting for here, so long as they don't harm the REPUBLIC.
What ever YOU define it by I'm against...obviously.

Question for all can you be a gay christian?. If yes they must include all Christians...that should be the only requirement for joining gay and straight alike.
Heck can't gay and straight alike just worship Jesus? or isn't it allowed for gays.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Annee

Because it's apparent that their business model is to connect heterosexual people with each other.

Nice of you to make that point of discrimination.

a reply to: infolurker

It's like those stories about suing Cake shops for not catering to a specific group of people. I don't see how this is fair.

Is there an Islamic dating site online? Would they force these same rules on their website? Seriously Doubtful.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: infolurker

It's like those stories about suing Cake shops for not catering to a specific group of people.

That is not correct.

A cake was ordered. A standard wedding cake, like one in their catalog. A cake that was made and sold to hetero couples.

No special cake. Just a cake.

When the Christian owners found out it was for a gay wedding, they refused.

They are a business, not a church. They cannot use religion to deny a customer a product they normally sell.

They can refuse to decorate it in a way they find offensive. If asked to put 2 grooms on a cake, that they can refuse to do.

a reply to: Annee

As the author relayed in the story, should he be forced to do voice-over work and provide religious podcasts?

I cannot imagine the government stepping in to tell me, in my privately owned company, what products or services I must offer to potential customers because someone was offended by something I wasn’t doing.

In 2013, my company was approached by Benny Hinn Ministries who tried to get us to do Christian voiceovers. I declined because I disagree with their message, and didn’t want to put my voice to a “prayer healing” video that I felt was misleading people.

That’s my right as a business owner.

According to Unruh, that would be a violation. I simply refused the work for religious reasons, and I cannot imagine living in a society in which the government would step in and force me to do those voiceovers, so that Benny Hinn wasn’t offended by my rejection.

Just out of curiosity, I am not taking sides here, does the web site refuse gay members, or do they just not have a box, or a section were a person can identify exclusively as gay?

If they don't have a statement that excludes people that identify as gay, then I don't understand why this is a problem. If anything it would mean that they are not holding a neon sign over gay people and making them look different from any of the other Christians that may be multicultural.

If you are gay and you are Christian, than join and just add that bit of information to your profile, and work that out with your potential mates.

Is that not permitted?

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Annee

As the author relayed in the story, should he be forced to do voice-over work and provide religious podcasts?

I love how people are buying into the obvious slippery slope fallacy.

Does a secularist podcast have to promote religious ideals? Obviously not. A secularist podcast is readily available to be listened to by religious people already if they choose to do so.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Just out of curiosity, I am not taking sides here, does the web site refuse gay members, or do they just not have a box, or a section were a person can identify exclusively as gay?

If they don't have a statement that excludes people that identify as gay, then I don't understand why this is a problem. If anything it would mean that they are not holding a neon sign over gay people and making them look different from any of the other Christians that may be multicultural.

If you are gay and you are Christian, than join and just add that bit of information to your profile, and work that out with your potential mates.

Is that not permitted?

The site's browsing mechanics allow browsing of other members exclusively based on their sex. A man who signs up for the site cannot search for other men.

a reply to: Annee

Thanks for clarifying Annee.

I think it's unfair though, there are other Religions that just wouldn't go for this, why are the only ones being badgered to cater to it, pretty much all Xian?

Do you see a double kind of standard happening with it?

I'm referring to this post, just to clarify.

a reply to: awareness10

Can you cite some examples of other CA organizations doing this and getting away with it?

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Here's some stuff from their website:

Welcome to the largest and fastest growing online community for single Christians. ChristianMingle is the premier destination for anyone looking to date and marry within the Christian faith.

For all of us, there’s no greater gift than being able to match good people with one another, and then hear their stories.

www.christianmingle.com...


I don't see anything in there about "single heterosexual Christians", or "being able to match good heterosexual people" with one another. Looks to me like their business model is to connect Christian people with each other, and that's how they advertise it. Jews who aren't Christian and Atheists who aren't Christian are going to get turned down, and rightly so. But gays who ARE Christian? No legitimate reason for them to be turned away.

a reply to: DeadFoot

I must admit i cannot. But my point was that ... ok take Islam, they don't condone just about anything. But especially this as in topic. I've yet to hear about anything coming from their side but, at the same time, i do feel there is a push on Christianity more so than other Religions. It could be set up that way, a conspiracy perhaps i don't know. It really is more of an observation on my part, passing news stories and so forth. I just doesn't feel fair.