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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: visitedbythem
Yeah. Hopefully you're right. El Nino is waning though.
Too many people and too much agriculture in a region prone to drought.
They will tell you they do, of course.
Hard to spot, they do it secretly, disguising it, but there should be enormous fines when caught.
originally posted by: netbound
I live in So Calif (Redondo Beach/LA South Bay) where very little rainfall is the norm - a good thunderstorm is a novelty around here.
Cashews are a tropical tree, I don't think that they are grown commercially in California.
The only drought exists in the lands of Cashew farmers who can't grow their for export precious nuts.
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: BlueAjah
Common sense is a very broad range that shifts meaning drastically based on perspective.
Then why didn't he say that? It's not a long message and is perfectly clear as to its intended meaning.
originally posted by: Annee
As said: who do you read?
WATCHDOG
Watchdog is run by the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, which itself was launched by the conservative Sam Adams Alliance. These groups are so tied in to all the other major Tea Party power brokers and organizations that it's hard to go through all those links without pulling out a progressive version of Glenn Beck's chalkboard.
According to Source Watch, 95% of the Franklin Center's funding in 2011 came from Donors Trust, a group that Mother Jones has called "the dark-money ATM of the conservative movement" for its record of steering half a billion dollars anonymously from wealthy conservative donors to the poster children of the Tea Party, including Americans for Prosperity, the execrable ALEC, and climate denial groups like Heartland Institute. www.dailykos.com...
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: harvestdog
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: harvestdog
Good video on the man made drought.
Who is behind The National Alliance for Environmental Reform?
Makers of this video.
What's that got to do with the facts contained in said video?
Who's behind it and who's agenda it is, is not important? Since when?
Just because you want to believe this video is fact - - does not make it fact.
Other then finding out its a Non-Prophet organization - - - there's nothing.
originally posted by: desert
.... And it is not solely about Calif Delta farmers' eminent domain fight. What is happening here is Calif Delta farmers and their farming water is being threatened (again) with these tunnels.
Officials say the tunnels will stabilize water supplies for cities and farms south of the delta. But it has drawn strong opposition from delta farmers and environmentalists, who contend the tunnels will allow saltwater from San Francisco Bay to degrade the delta’s water quality and damage habitat for endangered salmon and tiny delta smelt.
source
Note that tiny fish, the Delta Smelt, that is the butt of jokes and anger in CA water issues. (Even Rep Boehner joked about it when he visited the Valley.) Farmers in the Delta understand their survival and the smelt are interrelated.
Brett Baker, a pear farmer and fishery biologist from Sutter Island, began the first panel by giving a power point presentation showing the decades-long links between Delta agriculture and fishing. Baker showed photos of his dad and grandfather proudly showing striped bass and salmon they had caught many years ago.
“Stripers and salmon co-existed successfully in the Delta for over 100 years,” emphasized Baker, countering the disinformation campaign by west San Joaquin Valley water contractors that striper "predation" has led to the decline in stripers.
“It broke the heart of my father when I came home from UC Davis and told him I had changed my major from business to fishery biologist.”
"My dad, said ‘So you’re going to be a tree hugger now.'"
“That’s right,” Baker told him, “A pear tree-hugger.”
source
"Tree huggers" and farmers and fishermen team up, using a plan change to try to stop the tunnels.
Environmental groups and farmers team up to slam Delta tunnel plan
CA's current water wars pits farmers from the Delta region and northward against farmers (agribusiness, and also oil industry) in the Central Valley to the south, dragging Los Angeles area into the mess.
While it may seem like eminent domain is being demanded for a common good (Los Angeles, etc.), the Delta farmers see it as a continuing grab of northern state water, which affects them detrimentally. So, these farmers are indeed on the side of that tiny fish. And it's no laughing matter.
Even if the farmers were to plant over the tunnels, the fact that water would be diverted southward affects their water quality.
originally posted by: desert
What it could do is add salt and perhaps toxic chemicals...
Another example: Diverting the Sacramento River means the San Joaquin River would compose a larger share of the water in the estuary. The San Joaquin is poorer quality water, laden with salt, pesticides and selenium, a naturally occurring mineral that can deform wildlife in excessive concentrations.
Delta could get saltier if tunnels are built