Free Energy Motor Discovered?

a reply to: moebius

explain again how magnets create motion - without contradicting your last post

a reply to: ForteanOrg

apart from " weasel words " is there any reason for " premises " being in caps ?

PS - that doent invalidate my question - the response was ????????????????????

a reply to: moebius


The kinetic energy produced by the velocity of the last ball bearing, depending on how many magnets you want to use . Is in excess to the setting energy . A spring set system could not give this effect

a reply to: MysterX

Here's an idea. How about getting annoyed and speaking negatively about the hoaxers rather than the people pointing out the lies. Wouldn't that make more sense?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

explain again how magnets create motion - without contradicting your last post

How do springs produce motion?

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: moebius


The kinetic energy produced by the velocity of the last ball bearing, depending on how many magnets you want to use . Is in excess to the setting energy . A spring set system could not give this effect

Please provide evidence that it is in "excess to the setting energy".

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

explain again how magnets create motion - without contradicting your last post

How do springs produce motion?

by having a force applied to them and reacting per Newton's 3rd law?

a reply to: moebius

sigh - answer the question asked - deflection = dishonest

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: moebius


The kinetic energy produced by the velocity of the last ball bearing, depending on how many magnets you want to use . Is in excess to the setting energy . A spring set system could not give this effect

Please provide evidence that it is in "excess to the setting energy".

Burden of proof, it is a thing.

If this were realistic in today's society do you really think TPTB could contain it?

We are talking worldwide revolutions in energy.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

explain again how magnets create motion - without contradicting your last post

How do springs produce motion?

by having a force applied to them and reacting per Newton's 3rd law?

And it works exactly the same for configurations of magnets.

Take two magnets and press them together. -> This is equivalent to compressing a spring.

Release the magnets, the will move away from each other. -> This is equivalent to an expanding spring.

The energy you'll get out as motion is equal to the energy you have put in before. The energy is stored in the configuration of magnets, their relative position. The magnets don't change during this process. You can repeat it ad in­fi­ni­tum.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

sigh - answer the question asked - deflection = dishonest

No, I've asked the question to see whether you understand basic physics.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: moebius


The kinetic energy produced by the velocity of the last ball bearing, depending on how many magnets you want to use . Is in excess to the setting energy . A spring set system could not give this effect

Please provide evidence that it is in "excess to the setting energy".

Burden of proof, it is a thing.

If this were realistic in today's society do you really think TPTB could contain it?

We are talking worldwide revolutions in energy.

So you can't provide any proof for the claim?

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

explain again how magnets create motion - without contradicting your last post

How do springs produce motion?

by having a force applied to them and reacting per Newton's 3rd law?

And it works exactly the same for configurations of magnets.

Take two magnets and press them together. -> This is equivalent to compressing a spring.

Release the magnets, the will move away from each other. -> This is equivalent to an expanding spring.

The energy you'll get out as motion is equal to the energy you have put in before. The energy is stored in the configuration of magnets, their relative position. The magnets don't change during this process. You can repeat it ad in­fi­ni­tum.

Except you can't since magnets eventually lose their magnetism. Depending on how much you use them. Did you think they were permanent?

Also, let's assume they didn't and you were right...what about air friction? Vacuum? What about the energy you used to create and maintain the vacuum? Next..let's assume again that you are right, how would you connect them to ANYTHING without it losing energy?

You we aware of friction, heat loss, mass etc? Right?

a reply to: moebius

ROFLMAO - you are questioning my grasp of physics ?

that is beyond pricless

now answer the question - and stop deflecting

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: moebius

sigh - answer the question asked - deflection = dishonest

No, I've asked the question to see whether you understand basic physics.

Yes. He most assuredly understands basic physics.

a reply to: moebius

Take two magnets and press them together.

What presses them together?

This is equivalent to compressing a spring.

no it is not.

Release the magnets, the will move away from each other. -> This is equivalent to an expanding spring.

another horrible example of physics.

The energy you'll get out as motion is equal to the energy you have put in before.

no it isn't

The energy is stored in the configuration of magnets

you are aware that magnets are not infinite, but rather like batteries, right? im guessing not.

The magnets don't change during this process. You can repeat it ad in­fi­ni­tum.

until the magnets lose their charge and have to be re-magnetized.

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: moebius


The kinetic energy produced by the velocity of the last ball bearing, depending on how many magnets you want to use . Is in excess to the setting energy . A spring set system could not give this effect

Please provide evidence that it is in "excess to the setting energy".

Burden of proof, it is a thing.

If this were realistic in today's society do you really think TPTB could contain it?

We are talking worldwide revolutions in energy.

So you can't provide any proof for the claim?

If I showed you beyond a shadow of a doubt you were completely wrong would you continue in this discussion?

I can show you that proof, you may not understand it completely, but your lack of understanding won't discredit it.

a reply to: Emerys

Long time ago, somes friends asked me to investigate similar claim about magnetic motor as it was a "fantastic" investment opportunity...

My result were that ordinary static magnet have a specific level of energy inside them due to the magnetization they got at their fabrication time.

Those magnetic free energy motors simply "discharge" their static magnet to produce a torque. Simply compare the magnetic field intensity of a magnet before and after some motor work, you will discover a tiny drop in the magnetic field.

Short answer version: It is a clever scam that seem will never die.

Where does the energy come from?

This is honestly the only question I like to ask about "free" energy motors. Because then the stutter begins..

"Magnetic fields" - nope. Those deplete over time. Because you take some of their energy out of the system. Which leaves them with less energy.
"Gravity" - nope. What goes down (giving off energy) has to come up again (needing the same amount of energy again).

Anything else?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
a reply to: MysterX

Here's an idea. How about getting annoyed and speaking negatively about the hoaxers rather than the people pointing out the lies. Wouldn't that make more sense?

Because if i wanted to concentrate on negativity, corruption, liars, cheats, arrogance, dogmatic naysayers and just about every other Human failing, there wouldn't be enough time in my lifetime to cover it properly, and besides, there's really no need, as anyone who's been alive for any length of time, already knows about that side of our psyche....i prefer to be optimistic and cheer on those who *might*, just *might* through hook or by crook, by trial and error or just sheer bloody mindedness actually stumble upon an innovation that will help Humanity.

That's why.