Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

You know I actually did that once. Not winter without heat, that would be unbearable for a frost bubble like me, 30°C and I still need a blanket. But I spent a while walking half across Europe with a tiny bag, slept on mountains in fields and such. It was nice. I'm still kind of amazed how strong and persevering I can be.
Must have been a cockroach in a former life.
The universe 404's you... Ha that's brilliant

a reply to: Peeple

Ha curious I was just contemplating packing my tiny camp gear up (bought for motorcycle trips) and doing a walk about... of course by the time I returned my horrid family would have broken into and either stolen and or sold all of my stuff, yes they are that greedy and hateful worse than any strangers Ive ever met actually... how sad is that? Any of them die itll be like one of those old dixie land jazz ablums dancing in the street free at last free at last... it may sound horrible but that would just end it in balance.

Yeah its all just stupid crap and replacible if I do go jaunty but ive had to replace the stupid crap like 10 times now so it gets super old... working my ass off 7 days a week nearly every waking hour to lay down some roots of my own having always helped and put every single person ahead of myself my entire life... still do that but it transformed out of nowhere unexpected. Might sound like im bitching and morose just simply stating facts surrounding my current situation that just is what it is and its temporary even if Id have liked this temporary to have ended 2 years ago its been a lot of growth and learning better and better everyday

or to make this long story even longer? Just like you said perserving but im going to add resiliant because Im still going through it... and thats ok.

add 16 to that 404 and thats about how I feel without any

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Had a Futurama season 1 day today "you gotta do what you gotta do".
420 sure would make it funnier. An actual mystery or conspiracy, the nerve poison is legal the medical plant not. It's all backwards.
have a nice day

a reply to: Peeple

"Good news everybody"!


The guy who wrote Futurama legally changed his middle name so it now reads: David X Cohen (as in, a x b = c). He has a degree in math. There are all kinds of goodies hidden in that show! The bookshelf for example in one episode has a book, NP, next to a book, P, which is a joke about the set of equations that are Provable vs. Non-Provable (see all the equations are written down in a book so you would only have to compare each book to solve the question!). And Farnsworth is the guy who invented television!

Dumb nerd humor at its best!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I hate to admit those subjokes never made their way through my thick hairy pretty head, but I love that show.
I can relate to all of the characters except Hermes, but that's racist because he is bureaucrat

a reply to: Peeple

The irony on there is 420 still isnt legal yet you can buy crack out of a vending machine... hhmmm while typing that I just realized vending machines on that show are also robots so maybe it was just a drug dealing robot. I just exploded my own head on that one.

Where are you? I am so in love with this one!
What's your opinion?
Almost a hundred flags, that thing should be buzzing!
HELLO?
At least you my fellow "woo-ists".

And I think here in our modest little cafe I can freely state, I am the greatest magician of all times.
I asked for a UFO fleet, I got a possible UFO attack. That's not bad, right?
Even if just is for my entertainment I am having a blast!
*j9ke

a reply to: Peeple

I saw that post online somewhere else earlier... I've seen that sort of spherical anomoly quite often in personal experience seems those sorts are always around especially on road trips. It would be kinda strange if everyone had a personal one following them around like a monitor of sorts... or forging reality based on ones thought patterns to manifest things like some sort of spirit/energy bubble like a guiding light just out of sight that likes to play hide and go seek... who knows?

The rocket was supposed to be owned by a company that was wants to use tech for co-ordinating ground attacks. If all our technology is alien inspired, we jumped from vaccum tube and bakolite in alomst an instant, not something industry typically likes to do when milking as much profit as possible before new tech hits shelves, perhaps the profit was seen as greater than the milking though... I just always found it courious having taken college courses in electronics replaced board components etc yet still have no idea how slowing down, speeding up, storing and modulating electricity from one end through all of that slowing, speeding, storing and modulating with rapid on and off 1's and 0's in a loop produces all the many different out comes...

I know how all the components work but why and how so many different things? I has no idea except perhaps it's a wave form function that alters reality itself. But I could see if we are given or inspired by some intelligence such technology how they might come in and nerf it from time to time so there isn't any abuse of such "gifts" to keep the playing field level as we advance from primitives into an advanced technological society... of course there's that whole evolution thing, when much of society still clings to belief which is not a global reality just a group or specific... this evolution crawls forward... maybe that's not such a bad thing at times because it takes time for our forms to adapt to adversity.

It's a conundrum that I have encountered several times and have looked for the middle of it found that in myself but globally it's a tough one, looking at the political spheres there's one side that wants to advance and there's one that wants to drag feet and even reverse time as either it has gotten too complicated like someone learning to read placed in an advanced reading course and those so bored from knowing the material they'd rather sleep during class or study for the next one... So we have some culture still small and tribal with basic land disputes closer to nature seeing technology as encroachment on their way of life and we have some that are like lets use all the resources we can and leap into the stars there's more planets like this out there in the countless star systems that we could reach if not arguing if Batman or Spiderman is the better... while one side of the politicians say lets drag it out in profit because evolution is slow and crap like flouride and many advancements in chemicals and processes hurt our bodies as the real brakes, and the other side that also wants to profit but wants to move civilization ahead much faster in the sacrifice of a few to save many then argue which ideology actually is more beneifcial or detrimental but either way there's profit so they play both sides of the fence.

The middle or part of it is of course seeing we waste a lot of time and resources studying fields we already have solutions for and that many of them have become a detriment making life less fulfilling... do we seriously need 400 different patented or generic pain medications and on and on into the 1000's? If one works putting that effort money and resources into other things is more beneficial, but then again it's jobs it's industry so it's a big cluster f--k of a catch 22... I have a feeling this is why it has seemed none of government has been working for a very long time, here we are replaying the 60's all over again 50ish years later with either a Nixon or a Kennedy one party ideology that wants to drag us back past the 50's into the 30's with walls cold wars and Nazism and one looking for advancement in globalization into a one world community... yet both are tied up in the same issues, the wall for us and Mexico just means lets try to stall trade so we can further our industry and continue cheap labor and imports out of mexico... instead of mexico being able to compete the same as canada does.

On that basis alone it's wrong and rooted in ideas of supremacy and not equality on the global scale as far as economics trying to leverage other countries resources, it seems to be a sickness of all "first" world countries... that's trickle down economics across borders in action while most favored nation statis is supposed to be the hand up as a sort of repentence for all the messed up crap and discrimination between cultural exchange and understanding growing together as a world and not apart...

Well, if that didnt turn into a diatribe fingers on automatic again my apologies.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

No, let it flow, always good to share perspectives.
I agree to some extent. Just nitpicking I would say studies on medications should be allowed to be, there is one guy, basically cured from aids with gene transplantation. the Berlin man

You won't be able to make the fighting for dominance go away. Maybe channelling it differently would be wise.

a reply to: Peeple

Sure but thats one of the sides of medicine not trying to re-invent the wheel... I am all for that, sure some medicine is made and they are like what were we shooting for? I dunno lets call the clinical trial people in and find out what it does then brand it for what it statistically seems to alieve in that subject group... scary huh? But thats how we learned herbal medicine, cave person to another: hey Bob this is a new plant wanna eat it? No I still have the sh!ts from the last new plant but yay a cure for constipation... give it to mikey though he eats anything. Meaning yes that child on the playground encouraging others to eat worms is likely going to end up in medical research and just harnessing the study of test subjects and their reactions earlier than normal.

Once the cure for diarrhea has been found though why continue looking for more sh!tty things?

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Preaching to the choir.

I feel I take in so much medication residues with the drinking water and the meat I occasionally eat, I don't have to swallow extra.
I am pro painkillers sometimes, but I am for experiencing altered mindstates, for recreational and research purposes, so that's no far stretch. Some really wild stuff out there tranquillisers also, some nice highs with that.
But that stuff is addictive, not good for the liver mostly, I already have stomach issues, so no.
Variations don't get hooked on one thing, explore. For me this legal highs business is a gift from heaven. So much to chose from, different formulas, so no worries.

Wait I got carried away what I was trying to say was, medication is a synonym for drugs, drugs are dangerous. All of them, always.

And there was something else I wanted to share, just need coffee! COFFEE!

a reply to: Peeple

I've said it before and I'll say it again til I cease to have any functioning... life is the number one cause of death.

I had my experimentation days, died on my bedroom floor according to two friends too scared to alert anyone said I was solid blue... all I know is I woke up face down in a puddle of vomit and extremely stiff and cold in the middle of August in a house that had no central heat or air. One of the friends sheepishly called one of my roomates freaked out a bit and he said yeah he's fine. The friend meandered around after being weird for about two weeks and started crying saying you were dead man you were stone cold dead shook him to his core... not the first time I've died I've kinda gotten used to it these days.

But hard drugs and myself an absolute no, even some of the natural ones... cannabis gets a huge two green thumbs up from me though. Not legal in my state and incarceration is not something I am at all interested in so I am a tobaccoist that crap is more addictive than a female hero and not something I'd want to try to kick incarcerated either it's like Mr. Peanuts cane, monoicle or top hat I wouldn't feel like me without it and don't when I have set it down for weeks or months talk about feeling trippy... occassional light drinker extremely rare heavy drinker, not a big fan of the feeling it makes me kiss strange ladies even though I like strange ladies sober is the prefered way to meet them.

Also wanted to discuss another aspect of UFOS and all alleys of woo.
Religion,
Spirituality
Abductions
Ghosts
Shaman practices
Dreams to some extent
Demons & angels
God concepts

You see, I have a few notes, but the most pressing issue would be to clear up and put it in the right boxes, what's what? Is everything connected to "aliens", or are there two, maybe three different influences operating on the "same medium", we just coincidentally start to discover?
That is if I go full woo and say all of the stories surrounding the woo hold all a core of truth.
Which isn't provable or disprovable. As I see it synchronicities are the trumpets from heaven, the call, really loud and shrill, tipping the shoulders of normal people and scaring the crap out of them.
Like this Australian family have you read it?
Meet The Tromps
I bet they are victims of synchronicities. Told the daughter, which experienced it from there on too, not the younglings to protect them. They overheared a few things, maybe.
Interesting stuff! But what do people do? Big sticker out of the drawer "mentally ill" glued all over the family, tightly wrapped, if you will - done.
No, it's not solved with that. So many people have something similar in their lifes, if you just go by the label "woo". All of it goes under that, mental issues, poltergeist, possessions, abductions, spiritual experiences, mind games like yoga, meditation, t'ai chi, etc.
I am not neglecting some people just got really fu*ked up minds. Some really "make contact" and just honestly freak out. "I get followed" gets pretty common.
From my experience you can't suddenly notice, something tells you what will happen next and it does, without funking yourself. If that channel would be used for communication, holy singularity show mercy!

All is wrong. And a tiny bit right. Even Giorgio A. Tsoukalos. A Däniken student, btw.
But gold? Puhlease....

a reply to: Peeple

Well, the multiverse theory or infinite you theory has been around for over 5000 years... it is also an explaination for de ja vous another you and world is only steps ahead and steps behind in different densities like in this photograph.



This also means there is every single possible combination of you in an infinite spectrum moving at various rates or over very vast distances across the entire universe.

Of course some hold the idea of oneness to where every single being alive is you just at different points of time meeting as time and space is relative to the observer... of course the attachment to form and ego as a separate self is supposed to be the veil covering all of that up. Having experienced formlessness and seeing it no different than form, mental quiessence where there is no single thought arising as a mental formation in calm abiding... there has been an awareness that none of the mental field that arises is our own but a reflection of all thought echoed by us being thus attached to it claiming the concepts as our own when they are just a conglomerate of all of them coming together in a moment in order to do one thing: Communicate... what we communicate usually has some intent behind it, I personally just like sharing information... not like it really matters to be perfectly honest but to some it does so that means continuing to do so is an act of compassion to all these other so called other selves... staring at those images flickering across the minds sky.

Might as well eh? Sitting in the void no different than all pervasive space, all minds are essentially one nothing to be said or experienced completeness... yet that expression of being still lives and some part of it still experiences, clings to form thought an ego self and when the void gives way the earth is still there it's why the Buddha used it as a witness that it was real having conquered all illusion and delsuion of being and reality of course recalling all the pain and suffering having exited such a state and seeing the other beings or selves still mired in pain and suffering the great empathy arises to where helping others is no different than helping oneself, and that when it is expressed as only helping oneself... it becomes the entore complex of suffering or samsara itself, that's the experience of having gone beyond, all suffering is ones own but it isn't at the same time all pain ones own but not at the same time... and all that is arising is also passing each and every moment in a never ceasing impermance that is permance itself, so having such an infinite nature how else should one spend their time? Other than working to aid and remove all the suffering in countless beings that are oneself and not oneself... so only peace and harmony remain?

Much love everyone this body has been screaming in pain for hours now asking for rest, time to give it some compassion.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Honestly I don't bother myself much with the multiverse, I got enough issues in this one. Though sometimes it can have a calming effect to say "in another universe X is different", but that's not enough to make it attractive to me.
Can keep it of course, your guess is as good as mine.

Most people need no hug, they need a punch, a really hard one. Get the # over yourself!
Haha, but that's just me.

a reply to: Peeple

what interests me about the multiverse idea is that my dejavu and psychic and "synchronicity" effects seem to be based on one or two things. either I myself am now another me (whatever that means) and my memory is still the last me, but the last me was 3 minutes ahead, so now I'm remembering the future.. dejavu..

or

my spirit mind (whatever part of me that is literally all the me's) is sometimes more in tune, like I'm less my animal brain/body/local mind and more connected as one whatever, and that leaks information into my local mind from the other worlds and when it leaks in from a world very similar to mine sometimes it leaks good data about the future..

either way I lean to this because how else am I having dejavu movies or spans of time lasting 20 minutes even where everything that's happenning I can call out the next steps..

it's like you don't actually know the future of this specific line you are on, because there is always free will and choices, but the probable future has already played out infinite times, and it just depends what choices maybe you can easily slip and slide between these things maybe 1000s of times a day?

I honestly think we are in a "battle" of at least 7 billion divergent main paths so all of our choice realities are merging together in some "best way possible" to please the most choices of consciousness.. It's a little unnerving how many people want ww3 to happen. It seems like we diverged many lines to make it happen.

so one of my most dangerous ideas goes like..

when im in "God mode" I am at the center point (can be any point, so for instance it can be any person) I am at the center point of lets call it spreading out creation. When I am there I can "control the world" The me that I am can never do that.. but, maybe im not just the me that I am?

**Runs off to break the matrix.

God's like "oh gawd (he too believes in a higher power... anyway) "oh gawd reverbs is playing with fire again.. yea can we get a few agents on the case? Nah he hasn't figured it out, but he's causing ripples too close to the center, he's too unpredictable, and god.. I mean I don't roll dice!"

We are simultaneausly writing the present future and the past like a snake that eats it's own tail. This current waiting on the end of the world is getting boring. People are going to take their balls and go home if that's the only game in town. So precictable. I like divine comedies better. Though ending the universe would be tragically hilarious in it's own right.





the video is a visual representation of what im talking about, lyrics too..

"Dreams stacked on top of dreams
stacked on top of dreams
stacked on top of dreams
stacked on top of dreams...

Bodies, on top of
Bodies, on top of
Bodies, copies
Carbon copies
Do you copy, out of body
Out of body, tipsy turvey tipsy topsy tipsy topsy
Killuminati

I aim to provoke
I don't mean financial when I say that you broke
You broke in your heart, you lost in your thoughts, and you broke in your soul
Emotions evoke
Mentally stunted more issues then Vogue
Doors open and close
But you wouldn't notice it though, though, though...

Wreck the party, I'll find you in the other life"

I swear he's my soul brother.. Like we both rode in on the same ship, I mean time wave distortion.. Like we both got in heaps of trouble together, so then we were sent here to "Earth world 7.0013" to learn our lesson..

I just woke up..

Good morning random!

I'm feeling slight upticks in the "valley of the weird" We might be coming up on another "thin veil" day in the next few months. Hard to tell as I'm on my own bump as well.. might just be me.

a reply to: Reverbs

Pretty sure God would appreciate it, if you crack the mystery once and for all.

WW3 will happen, that's obviously no question if, but when.

Me personally I am unique and part of many unique "personalities" without problems. I can have access to the singularity without falling for the all is one trap.
Even if it's all connected, it's still not one.

a reply to: Peeple

that's just a matter of language.. We don't disagree. (re- god, and the "oneness" of things)

I'm more or less just admitting what I've been up to..

the thing that happened right before I died and came back to life and all that mess.

and no ww3 isn't inevitable. Turn in your free will at the door as you leave. The other souls are itching to use it.

LOL

Don't mind me. I'm in a weird mood.




I wrote this the first time I broke through:

" it's the whoever that whatever should endeavor, like never, before, because the door, is closing... not choosing is a choice not sewing, your knowing into existence, with no resistance, what do you expect? Your mind unused, your purpose is fused to those who chose, and used, but you froze...
Come with me now, while time is still now.
Let's make life beautiful some how."

a reply to: Reverbs

You must be, if you honestly want to talk about souls and God.

Please keep writing, I am not in the mood to share epiphanies, but I can read.

a reply to: Peeple

souls and god.. place holders.. I use place holders like any good logician/mathmatician.. This is my "concepts put into equations like algebra studies.." You know something goes there but you don't know it's value so you sub in a variable and manipulate the equation to get it to say whatever answers you want..

^I think that's the best way I've described how I think to date, but still not good enough.. Need better analogies.

was that you above wondering if it's all aliens or if it's aliens and demons and angels or if it's all angels but maybe angels come in ships? something along those lines?

yea I use all of those interchangeably. I can be a chore to talk to as we have already shown earlier in this thread because I change definitions constantly. I'm not doing it on purpose.. It's the way I mix concepts in my head so I'm never tied down. I mighht call something a demon, but it doesn't mean I am using the bible as context for Identifying entities.

honestly I'm being a bit fecitious when I talk about god, but that seems to be the main thing I can not transfer my thoughts on. It's just something you have to get, like the sound of one hand clapping. If I said it the most natural way of saying it... Well then I'll have the whole Jesus issue.. Or I'm the crazy narcisist..

I'm really just trying to provoke NEW ideas through other peoples brains who then talk back to me, and I might pick up something useful. So far ATS is far and away the best place for this purpose.

You guys are awesome.

And if you guys are interested in UFOs Black triangles in particular there is a thread with many of the characters in it that I sense truly know because well I have my secret reasons.

you can tell these people really saw the same type of craft as me.. I get chills when I read a true report..

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It brings to mind something I don't think I brought it up to you guys.. I brought it up maybe in PMs to someone..
I have a few links I can make later on involving "the matrix" "black triangles" "what makes reverbs see past the illusion sometimes."

maybe it will turn into a thread not sure.. I want to find where I called it before hand too in posts so I can show the track I've been on..

Part of it involves posters telling stories, but it's not the story and all the details of the story that matters.. threads go on for days and people think someone is asking questions trying to figure out why they are psychic sometimes, but really the thread is a blueprint or partial blue print to breaking the blue print..

I need coffee I think

good morning again errbody!


I personally like the spiritual angle to things myself.. So for me it's Angels not aliens but I don't differentiate the two really.. Just a personal preference on one analogy over another.. Leans better to my goals of breaking the matrix inside out rather than outside in.. Aliens/technology lead one the other way, though I think they equally pull off the same trick..