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1 John 3
9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: drevill
Sin is bad fruit and as Jesus said, good trees do not bear bad fruit. In other words, those who are in Christ and know him (good trees) do not produce bad fruit (sin).
1 John 3
9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
According to John, those who continue to sin are not born of God because those who are born of God cannot go on sinning. Christians claim to sin every day, which according to John means they are not born of God.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Raggedyman
The verse says what it says, I am only reading it the way it is presented. Either John meant what he said or he didn't.
I'm not an atheist either.
if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
originally posted by: drevill
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
The passage is interpreted by the context. Here we are being told that a person born again will not continue in sin forever. We are told In Philippians 1:6 that the work started in us would be completed however as a mortal human we are impatient. We are told that God is not slack as humans count it.
1john 1:8
if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Regards
1 John 3
8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.
No, because the statement "cannot buy or sell without the mark" only applies when the Beast is ruling, and not immediately even then.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
This made me think about the witch-hunts of the dark and middle ages and renaissance (even into the Colonies) -
if a woman (sometimes a man) was accused of witchcraft, they were examined to see if they had "the mark."
Of course that is the reverse of the situation envisaged in Revelation ch13, when the authorities would presumably be checking up on those without the mark or sign of loyalty, whatever form it took.
It seems to be describing an economic boycott, like the boycotts of the Jews in 1930's Germany.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
And what would that "mark" be? A UPC code tattooed onto the wrist?
- What it seems to me is that it is still the "church people" whose leaders are threatening to condemn some and not others.