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originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Abysha
UM...
weren't the death threats due to "political correctness?"
Or should I say, what was perceived as a lack of?
So... you are willing to admit that the Planned Parenthood shooting is a result of "conservative correctness"?
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Abysha
UM...
weren't the death threats due to "political correctness?"
Or should I say, what was perceived as a lack of?
So... you are willing to admit that the Planned Parenthood shooting is a result of "conservative correctness"?
If the guy who did it was perfectly sane, and stated clearly that his actions were a direct result of conservative correctness, then yes I would agree with that. But he was insane and not representative of the entire conservative population.
More to the point, changing the focus to a conservative does not answer the original question of were the death threats resulting from this photograph due to political correctness.
originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Abysha
edit on 17-12-2015 by Abysha because: Clarity
Again, you can say that about anything. Everything is subjective. There is no such thing as "valid criticism and invalid criticism".
All criticism is a display of subjective standards of some sort. That's the whole point of criticism!
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
That's utter nonsense. Copper conducts electricity. Is that subjective?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
As a matter of fact, Alan Bloom in his The Closing of the American Mind blamed PC on the sort of relativism and postmodernism you're espousing. Perhaps he was right all along.
"The American university in the sixties was experiencing the same dismantling of the structure of rational inquiry as had the German university in the thirties ... Whether it be Nuremberg or Woodstock, the principle is the same."
No, it is not subjective. Nor is it criticism.
His book was, in large part, a critique on relativism espoused from a subjective standpoint. By your rationale, The Closing of the American Mind is "invalid" criticism.
valid |ˈvaləd|
adjective
(of an argument or point) having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent: a valid criticism.
Yeah, no hyperbole there; just facts, right?
You can't say that all subjective criticism is invalid then come up with exceptions. You can't say that all criticism based on things other than unambiguous fact is invalid and then come up with exceptions. If this is the case, then your entire criticism of "PC culture" is invalid. Are those the rules by which you really want to judge criticism? Because if you applied that universally, we would live in a very boring world filled with thought police.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Vroomfondel
So it has to be a direct statement?
How many people are saying they are doing this directly because of PC?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Abysha
UM...
weren't the death threats due to "political correctness?"
Or should I say, what was perceived as a lack of?
So... you are willing to admit that the Planned Parenthood shooting is a result of "conservative correctness"?
If the guy who did it was perfectly sane, and stated clearly that his actions were a direct result of conservative correctness, then yes I would agree with that. But he was insane and not representative of the entire conservative population.
More to the point, changing the focus to a conservative does not answer the original question of were the death threats resulting from this photograph due to political correctness.
Oh my crap, this conversation is so stupid. Of course he was insane. ANYBODY who gives a death threat or shoots people is insane. That is my point.
That shooting can just as easily be blamed on conservative correctness as these death threats are blamed on political correctness. These people are insane, case closed. If the case is opened, I would blame conservatives for crap like that. I'm not stupid, I know that's not what ultimately caused an insane person to shoot up an abortion clinic just like I know you know that sane people under the influence of political correctness do not give death threats.