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The Rise of ISIS: How the Most Powerful Terror Group in the World Was Created

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posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 12:14 PM
Joby Warrick, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author of the book, "Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS," joins me to discuss how the group became the most powerful and wealthiest terrorist organization in the world. Warrick reveals who ultimately was responsible for the creation of ISIS -- and offers some shocking insight into the group's future in Iraq and Syria. Plus, myself and Warrick sound off on how the Bush administrations' lies ultimately led to the rise of the Islamic State today.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:00 PM
a reply to: JesseVentura

Don't forget how Obama's weakness and incompetence also contributed to encourage ISIS. We have had a string of foolish, incompetent Presidents in the U.S. However, I don't blame Bush and Obama entirely for their failures and the rise of ISIS. The fact is these are evil people and that evil was there festering before either of our Presidents exacerbated the problem through their incompetence.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:04 PM
What a world, what a world....It's ok though people....we're gonna see this fixed.... just a little while longer and I'm going to send in the boys from Detroit....rub out the bad guys.....Oh....and their leader is from Nazareth

I just heard the announcer on tv say it's a scary world we live in 'bout it 40 years ago.....

Hendrix t-shirt cooler than all get out...!!

edit on 14-11-2015 by GBP/JPY because: our new King.....He comes right after a nicely done fake one

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:10 PM
Always someone else fault.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:13 PM
a reply to: JesseVentura

Thanks for this thread. But. I can't take time to watch vids. Any text?


posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:23 PM
Jesse said it.......
Columbus was avoiding the M E to get to 1492.....
why are we going there now....? Ismael is a wild donkey....

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 01:49 PM
Joby Warrick is correct when he claims that ISIS is a completely fabricated enemy.

Where he is dead wrong like so many others is when he says that the United States is behind it.

TPTB are NOT the USA.

Warrick like all other MSM writers are not allowed to expose the elite because they write their paychecks.

Like the quote says below, all of these terrorist groups are part of a single network serving the same Illuminati cause.

Anyone who says otherwise is simply wrong.

"The real Muslim Brotherhood is not the fanatical sheikh with his equally fanatical following, nor is it even the top mullahs and ayatollahs who lead entire movements of such madmen; Khomeini, Qaddafi, General Zia are exquisitely fashioned puppets.

The real Muslim Brothers are those whose hands are never dirtied with the business of killing and burning. They are the secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchical elite.....and the Muslim Brotherhood is money. "

Muslim Brotherhood- Illuminati Tools

"The Muslim Brotherhood has acted as a clever technique to recruit agent-provocateurs for the Illuminati. The lowest ranks may sincerely believe they are defending Islam, and confronting "Western imperialism". However, these various terrorist groups, through representing different factions, are part of a single network serving the same Illuminati cause."

The Masonic Origins of The Muslim Brotherhood and Wahabis

It’s rather ironic that this latest wave of Western armed and financed “Islamic” militants invading Iraq and now conveniently threatening Syria and Iran is named ISIS. Or is it deliberate? It’s being used to stand for this oddly anglicised fabricated “Islamic State in Iraq and Syria” full on barbaric movement presently sweeping Iraq, but anyone acquainted with any degree of occult knowledge or esoteric mythology know the goddess Isis is one of the most important figures in the so-called mystery schools and a favorite of Freemasonry and the Illuminati.

And for many very dark reasons for which they have manipulated, murdered and thoroughly deceived humanity for millennia. While the US is currently once again self-appointedly deciding whether to go into all out overt war on this entire region from Lebanon to Iran based on this “unforeseen phenomenon”, this parasitic plan goes on full throttle, ripping the guts out of millions of innocent people’s lives for the Machiavellian desires of a few. All while they hoodwink the masses into a completely backwards interpretation of their devious sorcery.

These “elite” few are fueled by something besides their psychopathy – it’s an occult allegiance to powerful symbolic entities, whether they are all fully conscious of their allegiances to these powers or not. Such is the case of most of manipulated humanity.

Research for yourself and learn much more. Massive casualties and deaths turn them on. As it does for those controlling them behind the scenes both here and inter-dimensionally.

The ISIS Ploy: Illuminati Sorcery and Sacrifice

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 02:16 PM

Plus, myself and Warrick sound off on how the Bush administrations' lies ultimately led to the rise of the Islamic State today.

Sounds a lot like slander as the op well knows.

And no the Bush administration 'lies' did not lead to the rise of ISIS.

ISIS was created by Saudi Arabia, and other SUNNI friendly arab allies.

Actually looking back through history to the era of FDR created ISIS when the US got in to bed with the House of Saud.

Then during the Reagan era,and that guy named Charlie Wilson and his 'righteous' war during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan during the 80s.

Of course there were other cooks in that kitchen called the Peshwar Seven, and the Tehran eight.

What lead to the rise of ISIS is Saudi Arabia, and Iran vying for a regional hegemony fighting for control in the middle east.

All roads lead to those two countries.

Some reading material sans AGENDA as opposed to the op.

You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

It appears -- even now -- that Saudi Arabia's ruling elite is divided. Some applaud that ISIS is fighting Iranian Shiite "fire" with Sunni "fire"; that a new Sunni state is taking shape at the very heart of what they regard as a historical Sunni patrimony; and they are drawn by Da'ish's strict Salafist ideology.

This next part should sound familiar.

Ibn Saud had conquered most of the Arabian peninsula and consolidated it into one kingdom with the help of the fanatically religious Wahhabi Bedouins, who believed, among other things, that dying in battle was a ticket to paradise, that all images, from pictures to statues, had to be destroyed, that drinking and smoking and singing and dancing were sins punishable by whipping, and so forth.

Anyone who has bothered to open up a history book, and even bother to do a little independent research knows anyone 'blaming' the Bush administration for ISIS is pushing intellectual dishonesty.

ISIS and that ilk have existed a very long time. Long before the W administration in fact, and has had a lot of help from the 'friends'.

Sure hope someone doesn't SUE the op for spreading 'disinformation' to put it nicely.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 02:20 PM
Hope you've seen my thread - some more good sources about this:

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 02:27 PM

Plus, myself and Warrick sound off on how the Bush administrations' lies ultimately led to the rise of the Islamic State today.


Bush administration 'lies'.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 03:44 PM
Why overlook the current administration? These are the liars
on the freaking stage NOW.

"When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable."

—Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

"In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

Really sickened by the willful ignorance of those that continue to PERPETUATE the LIE.

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posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 03:48 PM
a reply to: Metallicus

meh...Obamas biggest failure is upholding Bush policies, building on them and still using the go at it alone mentality. Also killing a few leaders here and there is like cutting off one of the heads of a 7 headed dragon. He like Bush landed on his own carrier yesterday. Kill theme and move on, actions matter more than words, don't go around announcing we have them contained. There is no containing monsters and to say so is BS.
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posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 04:25 PM
a reply to: JesseVentura

So you relate this to the Bush admin..... that is only one half of the pie. The Left has it's half as well which is being fulfilled by the current admin which by the way has one Iranian born Valerie Jarrett a communist with communist family background an unelected person as thee most powerful and closest advisor to the President.
All GOP are not really right wing conservative either and Bush is 3rd generation Bonesman to grandpappy Prescott Bush. Antony Sutton explains extremes of left and right are false opposites that originate out of the same Totalitarian ideology.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 04:31 PM
a reply to: blujack21

still using the go at it alone mentality

The only go it alone mentality" here is the Prez going around Congress, everything else is going along with his handlers the communist party elite the European world socialists the unions france and the UN

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 04:32 PM
a reply to: burntheships

Yes absolutely John Kerry is left Hegelian Bonesman

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 04:40 PM
a reply to: Murgatroid

thank you thank you
thank you
Perhaps current POTUS is member....

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posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 05:18 PM

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JesseVentura

Don't forget how Obama's weakness and incompetence also contributed to encourage ISIS. We have had a string of foolish, incompetent Presidents in the U.S. However, I don't blame Bush and Obama entirely for their failures and the rise of ISIS. The fact is these are evil people and that evil was there festering before either of our Presidents exacerbated the problem through their incompetence.

I am tired of this incompetence excuse. Every time the governments hand gets caught in a cookie jar they say it was incompetence, of course none of the incompetent ones get fired either. Fact is it is not incompetence it's all going according to plan.

After all lets look at what is really going on. Even before Bush Jr was elected, Rumsfield and Cheney wrote articles for Project for New American Century talking about a need to reshape the middle east to extend and secure the United States superiority into the future.

Once Bush Jr was elected 911 was allowed to happen at the very least, despite warnings from many countries and even stock market shorts that showed a lot of people new what was going on before hand. Somehow our great intelligence agencies didn't have a clue. Oh yes incompetence. Bullcrap.

Then after 911 happened General Wesley Clark mentioned being told and shown a memo that said they planned to take out seven countries in five years.

“We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran” – General Wesley Clark. Retired 4-star U.S. Army general, Supreme Allied Commander of NATO during the 1999 War on Yugoslavia .

Using 911 to enter Afghanistan, they then flipped over and moved on Iraq. One target down, but then they ran into problems the American people were losing resolve and getting war weary. They couldn't get the rest of the countries, what were they to do. Well then the Benghazi, Libya attack happened. Unfortunately for them they still couldn't get the American people to jump on the bait. So, then you have Mccain over there in the middle east taking pictures with rebel groups and the pictures that have surfaced of him with two of the leaders of ISL. Shortly after you have the riots in Lybia and the fall of Qaddafi. Another target on their list down. Also ISL goes from being relatively weak and unknown to being the most powerful terrorist group of current times.They started getting a lot of weapons and vehicles, including a fleet of brand new toyotas and then even millions of dollars all looted from Iraqi, right where we left it, or so they say.

Then what does ISL do? They immediately go after Syria. Just so happens it is another one on the wonderful seven country list.

Well then unfortunately the warmongers had another problem, Russia steps in to protect Syria, slowing ISL down. So The US backs rebels in Syria, not to fight ISL but to fight Assad. The proxy war drags on shredding Syria and causing the flow of refugees into Europe, which is taxing their systems and also stirring up xenophobia.

Now you have this France attack on Friday th 13th, an auspicious day since it was the day the templars were arrested. What a wonderful day to pick, so full of symbolism. The templars/ the crusaders, finally fell on friday the thirteenth all those centuries ago and today on Friday the thirteenth the Muslim hordes returned to storm the gates of Europe again. The warmongers love playing symbol games like that. And even if you don't believe it at the end of the day this attack is going to lead to European offensive in the middle east and the United States will of course join them they are our allies after all. And at the end of the day the American people will be dragged into the war with Syria we never wanted and another target on the list will be gone. I am sure in the course of the war we will finish the rest of the list as well.

Incompetence hardly, it's all brilliantly played.

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posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 05:59 PM
Are the terrorists really a threat, or just patsies with fake bombs and Casio watches, paid for by Cicero and given brown shirts to wear by Hitler?

Is terrorism inside the United States really from outside, or is it a stage managed production, designed to cause Americans to believe they have no choice but to surrender the Republic and accept the totalitarian rule of a new emperor, or a new Fuhrer?

Indeed, given that acts of terror undermine the very public support needed by the so-called "terrorists" to bring about change, it may be argued that there are in fact no genuine acts of terror; that..... they are all manufactured events to be blamed on the groups wishing to challenge the status quo.
Bill Clinton has......
Coincident with the expected public statement of Monica Lewinsky following her testimony, Bill Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on Sudan and Afghanistan, claiming to have had irrefutable proof that bogeyman extraordinaire (and former Afghani ally) Osama Bin Laden was creating terrorist chemical weapons there.

President Lyndon Johnson wanted a war in Vietnam.

George wanted a war to stop that flow of oil, to keep prices (and profits) from falling any further than they already had. But like Roosevelt, he needed the "other side" to make the first move.

It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times; creating the enemies you need.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 06:16 PM
a reply to: neo96

Thank you. I appreciate the link to these articles, a glint of clarity.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 06:42 PM
The problem isn't with us, it isn't totally due to our presidents, and it isn't totally due to terrorists. It's with "them" the power elite, those who perpetrate false flag attacks, who manipulate the media and world events.

They are the problem, they create enemies, just so they can have an excuse to increase surveillance of the world.

It's all a reaction to the presence of ETs, they cannot defeat them, so instead they want to control us. They create giant enemies to keep focus off of them and ETs, just like they did in the cold war and like they are doing now.

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