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originally posted by: ngchunter
a reply to: queenofswords
Personally I'm an advocate for the constitution. Both the first and the second amendment. I'll do my thing, and you will let me do my thing as long as I'm not hurting anyone else with it. These people clearly were hurting someone else. Case closed. That does not give you the right to hold all of us accountable for it.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ngchunter
a reply to: queenofswords
Personally I'm an advocate for the constitution. Both the first and the second amendment. I'll do my thing, and you will let me do my thing as long as I'm not hurting anyone else with it. These people clearly were hurting someone else. Case closed. That does not give you the right to hold all of us accountable for it.
The Political Christian lobby gives me the right to hold Christians accountable.
It is illegal for preachers to promote politics from the pulpit.
Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
churches and other 501(c)(3) organizations can engage in a limited amount of lobbying (including ballot measures) and advocate for or against issues that are in the political arena.
originally posted by: ngchunter
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ngchunter
a reply to: queenofswords
Personally I'm an advocate for the constitution. Both the first and the second amendment. I'll do my thing, and you will let me do my thing as long as I'm not hurting anyone else with it. These people clearly were hurting someone else. Case closed. That does not give you the right to hold all of us accountable for it.
The Political Christian lobby gives me the right to hold Christians accountable.
It is illegal for preachers to promote politics from the pulpit.
Actually it's illegal for preachers to promote or campaign for candidates from the pulpit.
Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
www.irs.gov...
That is not the same as "promoting politics," such as urging their members to vote in general, or discussing issues such as abortion and marriage.
churches and other 501(c)(3) organizations can engage in a limited amount of lobbying (including ballot measures) and advocate for or against issues that are in the political arena.
www.irs.gov...
Consider yourself educated.
originally posted by: ngchunter
Actually it's illegal for preachers to promote or campaign for candidates from the pulpit.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ngchunter
Actually it's illegal for preachers to promote or campaign for candidates from the pulpit.
Yes, I know that. And many in recent years have been promoting specific candidates by name.
And carefully chosen words lets you know exactly which candidate without mentioning names.
originally posted by: jimmyx
atheism is looking pretty sane right now.....of course that takes critical-thinking skills, logic, and reason, rather than belief in a mythical being....
"Athesim has produced FIVE Atheist states, all bloody tyrannies killing over 40,000,000 people during the 20th Century Atheist holocaust!" Rewriting History and Making Facts Disappear (link is dead)
"...secular ideologies were responsible for the murder of 100 million innocent people during the last century." Source
Atheist Communist regimes, meanwhile, have killed over 100 million of their own people (and that's a conservative number) in just the last 100 years. Whenever atheism has been installed as the Official State Religion, the state in question has always given itself permission to do unspeakable things. Always. When God is not, as Dostoyevsky wrote, anything is permitted.
Link
"And the much greater persecution of priests and believers in 20th Century Atheist tyrannies clearly demonstrates the murderous anti-theism of Atheists." "Then you explain why they kill people in such vastly greater numbers than any religion EVER HAS in all of history!?"
• Russian Civil War (1917-22): 7 to 10 million
• Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 million
• People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 44 to 72 million
Atheists kill vastly greater numbers than any religion EVER
1. Opposing critical thinking
2. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving
3. Emphasizing special doctrines outside scripture
4. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders
5. Dishonoring the family unit
6. Crossing Biblical boundaries of behavior (versus sexual purity and personal ownership)
7. Separation from the Church
originally posted by: 123143
Catholics wiped out entire cultures. I think that a much more egregious offense.