I am Not a Homophobe! But...

Tonight I walked in the door and the wife is watching TV. She says "don't look...don't look" (meaning the program she's watching). As I walked through carrying some groceries I heard some dialogue about "Bruce" (whoever he is now) Jenner. It was some reality show (she watches them). I didn't really pay attention and moved on. She was actually watching two shows at the same time; the second one was law and order, and she was flipping back and forth.

The law and order program was pretty depressing by the end, and I had just made a nice dinner so I made what I thought was a simple request..."can we watch something a little more happy, or upbeat?". She was fine with this. First show up...reruns of Will and Grace (which i don't like...at all), then she brought up this new show modern family. Both shows have prominent gay themes or story lines. I made some comment about how many shows seem like they're gay oriented anymore. The wife says to me "I never realized you were so homophobic before!"

Normally, this type of discussion would start a fight because I can be short sometimes, but this time I took a different tact and decided to calmly explain my position.

I replied I am anything but, homophobic! I pointed out I work for a man who is likely gay. One of her nephews is gay, and I have no issues with them. One of my best friends from HS is gay. I don't have issues with gay or lesbian people. I just hired one!!

I went on to explain; my issue is, it seems like anymore there is this tremendous pressure by television programming, the media and so may other outlets to force you to accept homosexuality as a representative (i.e. mainstream) cross section of society. I disagree. I have no personall issue with it (to each his own), but I take exception to every freaking show trying to shove it down everyone's throat as if every other person in society is gay. The facts are, homosexuality is in the minority of societal population. Does it exist? Yes. Does it upset me? No. Do I agree with it? No, but that's just my opinion (ONLY mine). Is it wrong? This is not for me to say. However, I take strong exception to increasingly more and more TV programs and the news trying to make this lifestyle appear as if it is a significant representative cross section of society. It isn't...and they are trying to force it to be that way.

My own moral compass is my own, and is irrelevant here. Further, tolerance and understanding are just that. I have no misgivings about what a person chooses to do with their personal life, none at all. It's their business. I have many friends who are gay, and I would defend them (as I'm sure they would me) with the same ferocity as I would my own brother, but that doesn't change who I am as a person. On the other hand though, I stand at odds with the mainstream media trying to shame me into feeling like I am the odd man out in society.

Frankly, (and this is a statement of fact as much as opinion)....mankind would NOT even exist without heterosexual relationships. Personally, I don't think mankind should be ashamed of heterosexuality.

Sorry, but that's how I feel.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Well you do seem homophobic if it bothers you. The industry has been run by gay people for a 100 year, they finally just got to a point where their story could be told and advertisers would buy it and the public would be more accepting. Here is a thought, don't like them, don't watch. You are the one that seems to be forcing something down other peoples throats while pretending to be this all accepting hypocrite.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I disagree. I think his point was made with sincerity and precision toward the media. He didn't come off as a homophobe to me.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Actually, I don't .... watch (TV) (at all)

Secondly, how do you figure I am the one forcing anything down someone else's throat by expressing an opinion...and observation.

A bit rash, don't you think?

You opened a can of worms. The heterophobes will be along soon to tell you how mean and scared you are for having an opinion on the subject.

I'm gonna grab some popcorn

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I don't think your a homophobe either by your words.

And this is part of the reason I don't watch tv anymore. The media loves fads and trends and rides that wave. Associating what's 'in' with desirable and you have commercials like Carl's Paris Hilton's writhing car eating greasy mass production food item, as this beacon of everything that's great about being able to drive up and order a heart attack - to go.

All broadcast TV has become a commercialised venue now, they just got better at hiding it.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

You are the one that seems to be forcing something down other peoples throats

Giggady..

And yet, you work with someone gay, one of your family members is gay and one of your high school friends is gay, and you say many of your current friends are gay. Apparently there are lots of gay people in your life. Do you think you are the only person who knows multiple gay people? Nope. Pretty much everyone has had some personal exposure to gay people in their everyday life. So why do you think tv shows who show gay people are being disingenuous? I think it's pretty true to real life myself. Look at your own life as an example.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I made some comment about how many shows seem like they're gay oriented anymore.

Is that a sentence?

But I only kid. I see exactly what you mean.

You know you could pick the channel too.

a reply to: Reverbs

Well, it seemed like it was at the time. :-) Perhaps not a well constructed one though.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'm trans-financial.

I was a rich man born in a poor mans' body. I hope the government corrects this.

I also want everyone to support my new lifestyle that I was born into. I can't help it.

It's genetics.

Modern Family hardly has a prominent gay theme.
It has one gay couple out of the many on there.

Will and Grace you have a point with.
I don't think you are a homophobe, but do think you are blowing the gay media angle out of proportion.
Would disagree it is getting shoved down our throats and we are being forced to accept it.
It think we are just seeing more shows add an extra element to there shows as people are becoming more accepting of it.

The strategy is outlined most succinctly in the book (After the Ball) referenced in this "article":

The homosexual propaganda campaign in America's media

A founding work of the modern homosexual movement, this book covers a wide discussion of tactics and observations relating to the homosexual movement. But the overall main psychological strategies are well summarized in a ten-page section (pp. 147-157) titled "Pushing the right buttons: halting, derailing, or reversing the 'engine of prejudice'". Reprinted below, this is the meat of the book which has been re-used and referred to by the homosexual movement countless times.

It discusses (1) Desensitization, (2) Jamming, and (3) Conversion.

Of particular note is their tactical device throughout the book of referring to religious dissenters and other critics of homosexual behavior as "bigots." Their language is purposfully crude to enhance that idea. Much like the "big lie" theory developed in the 1920s and 1930s by the Nazis, the constant repetition of this eventually has the desired psychological effect on masses of people.

As you read this, keep in mind that it was written in 1989 -- and look around to see how far the homosexual movement has gotten using these techniques.

I've only just started to read this, but it already explains a lot regrading how "all this" has happened. It is orchestrated and most deliberate--you are being conditioned (and have been for quite some time) to accept it.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'm trans-financial.

I was a rich man born in a poor mans' body. I hope the government corrects this.

I also want everyone to support my new lifestyle that I was born into. I can't help it.

It's genetics.

You guys should get a parade..

a reply to: beezzer

Well that jokes involves wealth redistribution.

Didn't know you joined the dark side

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

Well that jokes involves wealth redistribution.

Didn't know you joined the dark side

lolz

Yeah, I want all of someone else's wealth earned by their success and hard work.

I guess that would make me one of you.

As a gay person, I hear where you are coming from.

The other side of the coin of course is that TV is a fantasy land that is supposed to be a mirror of society. It's not. You and I know this is not true, with the droll 'reality' shows that have no base in actual reality, to the news that is biased and questionable to the documentaries that lie and the entertainment shows that are biased to suit social agendas.

Gay is the new 'thing' for TV at the moment, it will pass as every fad does. It's just Hollywood my friend and she's been lying to us for over a century.

a reply to: beezzer

Hey it was your joke not mine.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

Hey it was your joke not mine.

Gay spiders.

I just don't know how much more of this sh!t us 'normal' folk a supposed to take? I mean we're really getting cornered these days. Before it's all over with I may be the biggest racist, anti-feminist, gay-bashing, bigot on the planet... simply out of spite.