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originally posted by: rexsblues
Am I missing something here? Where and how does this video show anything? You can't see above the dash WTF?
originally posted by: Edumakated
What you numbnuts don't seem to get is that police are already on edge. They have no idea who you are when they pull you over. They don't know if you are Sunday school teacher or if you got a body in the trunk. All they want is to do their job and get home to their families that night. When you start copping an attitude, you are escalating a situation with a person who is already on edge.
Numbnuts? Really?? No need for name calling...No one is calling you names.
But, I actually quoted your post for the next bit you wrote:
THere was a cop killed a few weeks ago. Pulled a car over and got blasted before he even got to the window of the car.
originally posted by: Edumakated
The one common factor in all the incidents? People not STFU and resisting arrest. You have to have a low digit IQ if you think mouthing off, talking back, and being aggressive with a cop is going to end well for you.
originally posted by: Edumakated
What you numbnuts don't seem to get is that police are already on edge.
originally posted by: Edumakated
No one is arguing that police are always right. But I am getting sick of all this Monday morning quarterbacking. It only takes a split second for what could have been a simple traffic stop to a cop being killed by not paying attention. Go look up the videos with cops getting blasted after pulling someone over.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: rexsblues
Are you gonna link this video you keep referencing? Because the only video I've seen you don't hear a noticeable change in the vehicle engine until after the victim has a bullet in his head.
originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: Edumakated
A license plate isn't worth dying for any day.
originally posted by: lovebeck
I have insomnia, have had it for years...So tonight, since I cannot sleep I decided to find out all I could about Ray Tensing. This could almost be in a thread by itself, however, since my last thread was closed, I will add it here. It does sort of fit. It has little to do with the murder of Sam Dubose, but EVERYTHING to do with Ray Tensing...
There's not much out there on Tensing that I can find, he's been reprimanded a few times for not following orders from supervisors (that, to me is a big red flag, possible narcissist personality type??). He left the Greenhills PD (not sure if he was ever a full time LEO there, but a reserve officer) for the UC campus cop job last year.
However, I then stumbled upon yet ANOTHER gem tonight...I found this video that was recorded by the two young men, last year. They've been stopped for a problem with their bumper (either it is dragging or just low to the ground).
First, the map of the area so you all who aren't from CIncy can kind of get an idea of where this stop occurred relative to UC's campus:
The red pin is where these two young men were detained by Tensing. They were in the parking lot of a United Dairy Farmer's store on Clifton Ave. UDF is a convenience/ice cream mini-mart type of store. I know this store well as I have walked to it many, many times from the hospital (Good Samaritan) that is a few blocks south. Again, these men were stopped for an issue with the car's bumper way off UC's campus.
The purple pin on the bottom? That is where Mr. Dubose was killed, way, way, off UC's campus (over a mile south of any UC facilities) after being stopped for not having a front plate.
Now this gem:
Look closely at Tensing's body language; the way he's twisting that flashlight in his hands and staring into the camera. There is some major creeper factor in that stare.
Thankfully these two young men KNEW their rights and were not afraid to inform Tensing of that. They were also smart enough to get it on tape. They did what I would do which is call for Cincinnati PD to come to the scene, however, I am not sure if they ever showed up or not as Tensing's supervisor handles things towards the end of the video and sends the young men on their way.
HE IS **AGAIN** CAUGHT LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH IN THIS VIDEO! Right to his supervisor (which the young men requested come to the scene). They inform the supervisor why they called for him and how Tensing had been acting. The tone of his voice is ver condescending. The look in his eye after they point out that Tensing is lying and they have it on tape is just pure evil, IMHO.
Anyone else see a pattern here??? He had a hard on for anyone and everyone who had any sort of car issue including a missing plate, an issue with the a bumper and even a missing side mirror (there is another video on Youtube of him handcuffing a man in his car) That car was stopped for missing a side mirror, JUST LAST MONTH!
Does Joe Deter's comment during the press conference on Wednesday, that Tensing "should never have been a cop," make more sense now? It does to me. But, I also feel there is more out there on him that hasn't come to the surface, yet.
It appears Tensing enjoyed making these menial BS traffic stops, just because he could, then he'd try and pump the info out of people, info that they didn't have to give, as well as trample their rights. He just seems to be a total asshat to people in general. The two young men in this video are awesome. Kudos to them for standing up for their rights and not letting this "cop" violate/obstruct them.
Did I mention that there are a TON of assaults, muggings, burglaries, car break ins, theft, etc. On UC's campus on a regular basis and the areas IMMEDIATELY around the campus?? No, I guess I didn't. Why isn't he out there fighting actual CRIME?? Clifton, Corryville, Mt. Auburn and (especially) Avondale are ROUGH neighborhoods.
Here is a link to the stop from last month, the one where he handcuffs the dude inside the car...The ones who were stopped for the missing mirror:
Not 100% on where this stop was made, but it may be further north on Vine Street going towards the VA Hospital and Cincinnati Zoo, but I am not 100% on that. But doesn't look to be on UC's campus proper...
Whew! Sorry if I kind of hijacked your thread, Starfoxx but I know you'd like to see this as well. I'll hand it back over to you now, lol.
originally posted by: Thill
I am trying to stay away from this debate for now, since I think both sides are guilty of what happened, but one thing that I found, going over different forums, is this pretty interesting analysis. It might help put some stuff into a different perspective.
"I spent some time tonight examining the video. Here's what I found:
1: Officer Tensing's position when he gets back to his feet after "falling" is something near 30ft down the road from where he was when standing at the door of the stopped vehicle."
"2: The vehicle appears to have started to move before Ofc. Tensing fired."
To be clear IMO this in no way justifies shooting the guy in the head but the question is (in my mind) if that gun did not go off by accident.