Should the blind be able to own firearms?

originally posted by: FireflyStars
I would not care if they owned guns as collectors pieces, but I see that as a very small slice of this demographic and that would open the same can of worms.

A person who was a responsible gun owner before blindness will have a much better grasp on safely handling that item but I still do not advocate them firing.

A gun requires vision to safely use unless there are extraordinary circumstances or it is restricted to a safe, supervised area.

Next you will suggest that blind people shouldnt operate stoves either. Just pathetic.

Have some morals. And stop discriminating against the blind.

Would it be okay for a blind man to own a gun in the remote regions of Alaska to protect himself from wildlife?

a reply to: DenyTreason

You are the one that brought up killing if I recall. It doesn't really matter. You are cherry-picking words and I have better things to do. (And I have poor short term memory that IMPAIRS me, but does not endanger others. However if I were responsible for remembering nuclear launch codes, I would then be a danger.)

I'm pro-gun btw. Just not pro-gun-at-unreasonable-risk-of-others-safety.



How the hell would a blind person go hunting? So much for all that orange everyone wears in fall. Shoot anything that moves, including rustling leaves? Yell to the deer to confirm they're deer? No.


Being rational isn't discrimination. PS: I almost married a blind person... That's why I'm active in this thread, I have perspective. Read before engaging me for better arguments' sake and lay off the personal attacks. I feel I addressed each post of yours as it came along and responded without screaming about your lack of morals (I'm sure your morals are fine.). We just disagree and I won't go around in pointless circles.

a reply to: eisegesis

Yes they should, not only be able to own them but also shoot them. They have two ears and they can triangulate a sound better than a person with sight can pinpoint a home intruder at night.

originally posted by: FireflyStars
a reply to: DenyTreason

You are the one that brought up killing if I recall. It doesn't really matter. You are cherry-picking words and I have better things to do. (And I have poor short term memory that IMPAIRS me, but does not endanger others. However if I were responsible for remembering nuclear launch codes, I would then be a danger.)

I'm pro-gun btw. Just not pro-gun-at-unreasonable-risk-of-others-safety.



How the hell would a blind person go hunting? So much for all that orange everyone wears in fall. Shoot anything that moves, including rustling leaves? Yell to the deer to confirm they're deer? No.

YOU were the one who said guns are for killing. I said that is NOT the sole purpose of a firearm. A blind person can defend themselves with just brandishing a firearm as well as using it at close quarters if needed. Thats reason enough to give them a chance against the degenerates of society. Stop hating on blind people.

And in America, it is their RIGHT. END OF TOPIC, you lose!!

Why do people lack common sense when it comes to guns?

Blind people firing off guns..yeah sounds awesome.

Oops killed my wife/kid...just playing around and tried to sneak up on me and surprise me but oh well.

Not to mention...does the person keep the gun on them at all times where the risk of accidental discharge will always be there or put it away for safe keeping and if they do, how do they get it in an emergency.

Only a gun nut's thought process would even consider it.

originally posted by: Onslaught2996
Why do people lack common sense when it comes to guns?

Blind people firing off guns..yeah sounds awesome.

Oops killed my wife/kid...just playing around and tried to sneak up on me and surprise me but oh well.

Not to mention...does the person keep the gun on them at all times where the risk of accidental discharge will always be there or put it away for safe keeping and if they do, how do they get it in an emergency.

Only a gun nut's thought process would even consider it.

The more i think about this the more i come to the conclusion perhaps it is best that the blind have guns.....at least this way natural selection might get a boost and we will lose more stupid people...faster

That is a really good question and one I cant even give an opinion on. I think they should because way more dangerous people can own them. Just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are stupid just kind of defenseless, so they need a gun.

Yes, the constitution applies to blind people too.

a reply to: Onslaught2996
I hear service animals can be taught to assist with a variety of tasks for the blind.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Onslaught2996
I hear service animals can be taught to assist with a variety of tasks for the blind.

Like this task?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Can you see in the dark?

More than a blind person can.

Bet ya they are better…

At seeing?

I would go with a short 12 gauge…don't need to aim very much…

Like Snarl said, lol. There is a difference between pointing and aiming. Still requires a "target" to shoot at. Otherwise even people with sight are committing noisy suicide.

originally posted by: eisegesis
A question to all who think they shouldn't own a firearm...

What if their rights were limited to inside but not beyond the wall of their place of residence?

They are probably very acutely aware of their surroundings and could defend themselves quite well if they had the upper hand.

Intruders want to play with fire so...

Well, here is the problem with that....are you then going to limit what they can own? I mean, a .45 fired at the wrong location in the blind persons home could concievably end up in the living room of the person across the street. I'm just sayin....

a reply to: FireflyStars

How the hell would a blind person go hunting? So much for all that orange everyone wears in fall. Shoot anything that moves, including rustling leaves? Yell to the deer to confirm they're deer? No.

Too funny. How about engaging the critter in a game of Marco Polo?

Hunter: "Marco?"

Deer: "Polo".

BLAM!

Deer runs off.

a reply to: intrptr

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Snarl
No.

Anything past that answer is simply making excuses.

Owning a firearm is an American Citizens right. All rights should be applied equally to ALL Americans and then it becomes the responsibility of the gun owner to act with due dilligence.

I will not argue with what remains of your quoted text. Technically, (there) you are 100% correct.

"I" very clearly understand the meaning of "shall not be infringed".

Very slippery slope the OP proposed. Would you help me up off my ass? LOL

originally posted by: Foderalover
That is a really good question and one I cant even give an opinion on. I think they should because way more dangerous people can own them. Just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are stupid just kind of defenseless, so they need a gun.

When the NRA acknowledges that up to 10% of SIGHTED gun owners are poor weapons owners and are more likely to kill themselves or someone they love than an intruder to thier home, it concerns me that we would allow someone who CAN'T visually identify a target the opportunity to shoot at it. Just because someone is blind does not make them Daredevil either.

a reply to: bullseyelqcs

Well, here is the problem with that....are you then going to limit what they can own? I mean, a .45 fired at the wrong location in the blind persons home could concievably end up in the living room of the person across the street. I'm just sayin....

I think that is a reasonable question to ask and should be discussed amongst those blind members of society wishing to own a firearm.

Shotguns can be tough if your attacker catches you off guard and tries to wrestle it from your hands. A small pistol would not be hard to aim by pressing it against the individual.

originally posted by: FireflyStars

Seeing in the dark is not the same thing as legal blindness, not even close.

Wouldn't that be something great to test. Personally if I was blind and someone broke into my house I would like a way to defend myself...

originally posted by: eisegesis

Shotguns can be tough if your attacker catches you off guard and tries to wrestle it from your hands. A small pistol would not be hard to aim by pressing it against the individual.

You are in bed all alone and blind, and you hear your front door get kicked in and people moving towards your bedroom, you reach for your shotgun and wait...I can't see that as a bad thing to have at that point in time.