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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Rezlooper
Your argument is that "mankind has caused climate change so we should try to change the climate more". Don't you see how illogical such an argument is? More so when there is no evidence that the climate change has been caused by mankind?
originally posted by: Rezlooper
Yes, the weather is always changing, but have we seen anything like this in our lifetimes? That's all that should really matter right? What are we facing in our near future.
originally posted by: Rezlooper
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It may be that all of our arguing is pointless. The natural sources of methane gas are far more threatening now than the manmade sources. We may have already reached the tipping point. I don't know how we start cooling the oceans and the Arctic region to get hydrates and permafrost to stop thawing.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: Rezlooper
Yes, the weather is always changing, but have we seen anything like this in our lifetimes? That's all that should really matter right? What are we facing in our near future.
And tell me, who the heck made you, and the entire AGW camp power to say what the climate should be like?...
If the climate is always changing, and like it has happened so many times in the past there will be more disasters, why do you want to try to play with Earth's climate?...
And please do tell me, how are you going to shield the whole Earth from the effects of the new region of space that Earth will be in within less than 100 years? Do you have Scotty hidden somewhere ready to beam everyone up, or put a shield around Earth?
There are so many things that could totally change the jet stream. Per your post, this is already going on, with Alaska, Siberia and Greenland experiencing abnormally warm temperatures. I've been monitoring world temperatures, and have seen that over the past few weeks, it's been warmer in Fairbanks Alaska than it has been in Wisconsin.
Ribbon at edge of our solar system: Will the Sun enter a million-degree cloud of interstellar gas?
Date:
May 24, 2010
Source:
Space Research Centre, Polish Academy of Sciences
Summary:
Is the Sun going to enter a million-degree galactic cloud of interstellar gas soon? A U.S.-Polish team of scientists suggests that the ribbon of enhanced emissions of energetic neutral atoms, discovered last year by the NASA Small Explorer satellite IBEX, could be explained by a geometric effect due to the approach of the Sun to the boundary between the Local Cloud of interstellar gas and another cloud of a very hot gas called the Local Bubble. If this hypothesis is correct, IBEX is catching matter from a hot neighboring interstellar cloud, which the Sun might enter in a hundred years.
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Rezlooper
I think your overacting to a political drama. Humans do impact the environment and in a negative way but i haven't seen 1 shred of credible evidence to prove that its human or that its even outside of a normal climate change pattern which can and does change to the extreme. Its due to unidentified variables that the climate science community is still collecting and analyzing data for.
No one has enough information about the world and universe we live in to draw absolute conclusions about whats causing what to happen, when and why.
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: kosmicjack
Well if we use history as our guide the only conclusion that we can really draw is that the earths climate is very unstable.
originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
a reply to: jazz10
I haven't read through the whole thread so, sorry if it's been brought up, but does anyone think the 2 major quakes we had, Japan & , (sorry, I can't remember the big one before that) has anything to do with it?? Wasn't it mentioned that our earth tilted a bit with each quake??
This occured in 1816. The snow never went away all year, and snow fell on year-old snow the following year.
Attributed to the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1815, this was truly one of the biggest weather anomalies in recorded history. It affected the northeastern US and Canada the worst, however it was a global, northern hemisphere event.
originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy
It's amazing how self absorbed we as humans are. The entire planet is controlled by forces totally and completely out of our control. We have yet to fully understand how Earth's weather is affected by bigger forces at play that exist in the solar system. Sun is a perfect example. To think that we as humans are affecting the Earth's weather to such a degree via our cars, houses, and using plastic instead of paper bags is so mind numbingly ignorant! The earth is still a huge wild place!!!! We aren't there yet. Maybe in 100 years we might actually start affecting weather patterns but Gaia can take a hell of a lot of abuse before we really have an effect on something like global and planetary weather. What's going on in the US with weather has been going on for Thiusands of years!!!!!! The only reason we are so driving obsessed with it is because we as a society are so frickin obsessed with numbers etc. everything has to exist in some form of quantitative realm when we are completely missing the bigger picture. You think planet earth is so delicate that a few degrees in either direction is going to stop the world from spinning? Who cares if the oceans rise two feet! Maybe half the US will flood. Good! Humans are a cancer on the earth anyways. We will survive and adapt!